This is an interview I did on KCBS San Francisco Sunday afternoon. The producer asked me if I could comment on what people who are short of cash should do to survive. So that’s what I prepared for. But then the interviewer, Susan Kennedy, led with a bigger-picture question and got, I think, a surprising response. The whole thing goes less than 4 minutes.

It has on it because my friends there did the work of converting the mp3 into a soundcloud.