
In the April 24 Wall Street Journal (April 23 electronic version), regular writer Joseph Epstein, in an article titled “Is That an Augur, or a Mere Economist?” does a disservice to economics in two ways.
I’ll deal mainly with one of them.
Epstein writes:
Economics is supposed to be a science. The “dismal science” Thomas Carlyle called it, having in mind the dark views on population of the 19th-century English economist Thomas Malthus.
Epstein is right that Carlyle coined the term. But it had nothing to do with Thomas Robert Malthus.
The real story, as many long term readers of this site may remember, is far more interesting. It was uncovered years ago by David M. Levy and Sandra J. Peart. Their January 22, 2001 article is titled, “The Secret History of the Dismal Science.”
They write:
While this story [the story that Epstein and many others before him tell] is well-known, it is also wrong, so wrong that it is hard to imagine a story that is farther from the truth. At the most trivial level, Carlyle’s target was not Malthus, but economists such as John Stuart Mill, who argued that it was institutions, not race, that explained why some nations were rich and others poor. Carlyle attacked Mill, not for supporting Malthus’s predictions about the dire consequences of population growth, but for supporting the emancipation of slaves. It was this fact—that economics assumed that people were basically all the same, and thus all entitled to liberty—that led Carlyle to label economics “the dismal science.”
Later in their article, Levy and Peart write:
The Exeter Hall that Carlyle mentioned was a real building. Located on the Strand in London, it served as the political center of British evangelicalism. By invoking the marriage of economics and Exeter Hall, Carlyle is reminding us of a vastly important fact about 19th century British politics: Exeter Hall was not the only moral center of the British anti-slave movement. In the fight against slavery, Christian evangelicals such as William Wilberforce and Thomas Macaulay were joined by political economists, such as James Mill, Harriet Martineau, J. S. Mill, Archbishop Richard Whately and John Bright. The two sides agreed that slavery was wrong because Africans are humans, and all humans have the same rights. They however disagreed over exactly what it is that ties us together. The economists drew on their assumption that deep down, we all share the same basic human nature. The evangelicals drew on their assumption that we are literally all brothers and sisters since we share the same first parents, Adam and Eve.
Carlyle disagreed with the conclusion that slavery was wrong because he disagreed with the assumption that under the skin, people are all the same. He argued that blacks were subhumans (“two-legged cattle”), who needed the tutelage of whites wielding the “beneficent whip” if they were to contribute to the good of society.
In short, black lives matter.
As I’ve said when I’ve given talks in which I briefly discuss the origin of the term “the dismal science,” given that Carlyle rejected economics as the dismal science because it did not assume that blacks are subhumans, one wonders what this party animal would regard as hopeful?
The above is Epstein’s main disservice to economics. The other is to give the reader the impression that economics is all about opinion and, relatedly, that economists never agree on anything.
That comes across most clearly in the following:
How little in the way of unanimity they show. Whether one prefers the views of Larry Summers over those of Art Laffer or vice versa, nothing near a consensus among economists about the likely effect of these tariffs has arisen. What has emerged instead is the obvious influence of politics on economics. On Fox News economists strongly approve of the tariffs, on MSNBC economists just as strongly disapprove.
It’s kind of stunning that Epstein would single out the issue on which there actually is a consensus. As I wrote in the preface to the first edition of The Concise Encyclopedia of Economics, then called The Fortune Encyclopedia of Economics:
That economists agree on most micro issues became clear in the late seventies when the American Economic Review, the world’s largest-circulation economics journal, published an opinion poll of 211 economists. The poll found that 98 percent agreed with the statement “A ceiling on rents reduces the quantity and quality of housing available.” Similarly, 90 percent of economists agreed that “a minimum wage increases unemployment among young and unskilled workers.” And 97 percent agreed with the statement “Tariffs and import quotas reduce general economic welfare.” The entries on those topics in this encyclopedia explain why economists are in such startling agreement on these and many other issues. (italics added)
What about Larry Summers and Art Laffer? Larry Summers thinks that Trump’s tariffs will have bad effects. Unless, he has changed his mind since I read him last, so does Art Laffer. Also, although I’ve seen economic commentators on Fox News approve of Trump’s tariffs, I haven’t seen economists do so. As for MSNBC, I watch it too little to know.
Postscript: When I researched to find Art Laffer’s views on Trump’s tariffs, I found this interview with Larry Kudlow on Fox Business. The title is misleading. It’s true that Laffer is saying that Trump’s economic policies are spectacular. But when he actually discusses the trade issue, he notes that there’s nothing wrong with trade deficits; that Trump’s and his advisors’ way of calculating reciprocal tariffs is nonsense; and that the ultimate goal should be free trade for all countries. Laffer, like Larry Kudlow, sees Trump’s moves as a negotiating move to get other countries’ governments to lower their tariffs. I think Art Laffer is way too optimistic about Trump’s goals and his negotiating skills. But that’s separate from the issue of the harmful effects of tariffs. On that, Larry Summers and Art Laffer agree. (Indeed, near the end of the 10-minute interview, Laffer talks about how damaging Nixon’s 10% tariff was.)
READER COMMENTS
Roger McKinney
Apr 28 2025 at 11:05am
Great points! The new “right” finds it necessary to trash the science of economics using the same ideas and methods of the left because they promote leftist economic ideas, though fascist instead of Marxist.
David Henderson
Apr 28 2025 at 1:39pm
Thanks, Roger. I’m not sure you can classify Joseph Epstein as the “new right.” He’s usually better than this, even if sometimes a little off. He does seem to enjoy making fun of economists, though.
David Seltzer
Apr 28 2025 at 12:20pm
David: It seems Mr. Epstein is a lazy writer. If he’d done some cursory research before publishing his misunderstanding of the term “dismal science” and his comment on consensus, he might have been taken seriously. Bad journalism.
Craig Richardson
Apr 28 2025 at 12:49pm
David,
Well done- and Phil Magness’ recent letter to the WSJ editor which we both signed along with 1000+ other economists also deserves mention.
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trumps-tariffs-unite-professional-economists-econ-white-house-augur-b167176b?mod=Searchresults_pos10&page=1
What surprises me more than Epstein’s lazy writing is the lack of fact-checking on the part of the WSJ for Epstein’s piece. That is the real laziness here, that undermines WSJ’s known and rigorous fact-checking process for publishing op-eds (at least in my experience).
David Seltzer
Apr 28 2025 at 1:11pm
Craig: Good points. Maybe the fact-checkers at WSJ trusted Mr. Epstein to get it right.
David Henderson
Apr 28 2025 at 1:16pm
Thanks, Craig.
Yes, I just came across Phil’s letter this morning when I read the links highlights on CafeHayek. Yesterday, I almost started to write my own letter but then I remembered that the Journal gets so many letters that if you miss the first 24 hours, you’re dead. That’s why I turned it into a blog post.
I’m so glad that Phil caught the error about tariffs.
Warren Platts
Apr 28 2025 at 3:21pm
I find these sorts of poll questions to be highly problematic. The problem is the statement is not quantified. Thus, the meaning is ambiguous. Does the statement mean “ALL Tariffs and import quotas reduce general economic welfare” or “SOME [or many or most] tariffs and import quotas reduce general economic welfare.” Economists, if not most laymen, know it can’t be the former because of the optimal tariff theory (usually referred to as the Big Country optimal tariff, although Broda et al. showed that even small countries can extract welfare raising welfare gains under certain circumstances) is well established and Krugman even made a mathematical theorem that proves it. Therefore, it must be the case that, “SOME tariffs and import quotas ENHANCE general economic welfare.”
Thus, the proper answer to the poll question is, “It depends.” But of course saying “It depends” is not an option. So how is the economist supposed to answer the poll question? Well, if the economist thinks that tariffs reduce economic welfare more often than not, they’re going to say that they agree with the poll question. But that’s all the poll really says: that tariffs reduce economic welfare more often than not.
This is problematic for at least two reasons: (1) as a general statement, “Tariffs reduce economic welfare more often than not” is pretty much useless for evaluating any particular, real world tariff; and (2) the poll then gets published in the Wall Street Journal or wherever and then the public reads the poll and, not knowing any better, they conclude that 97% of economists believe that “ALL Tariffs and import quotas reduce general economic welfare.” Thus, frankly, these sorts of polls are a disingenuous means to gaslight the public.
David Henderson
Apr 28 2025 at 3:40pm
I think it depends on what you mean by “general welfare.” If you mean general welfare of a country, you’re right and, by the way, that was proved long before Krugman was an adult.
However, if “general” applies to all mankind, then you’re wrong.
Another interesting point: Co-blogger Pierre Lemieux would not be able to agree to the statement because he doesn’t think there is such a thing as the general welfare. And he makes a cogent argument.
Jon Murphy
Apr 28 2025 at 4:04pm
David-
Two additions:
1: I think there’s also the issue of possible versus probable. One can reasonably argue that there can be an optimal tariff. But, as Krugman, Meltz, and Obstfeld say in their textbook, it’s a mathematically impeccible argument, but of little practical use. Politics come into play with tariffs, meaning that they are unlikely to generate any actual welfare gains.
2: “General welfare” seems to me to imply a general equilibrium model. The opimtal tariff model is a partial equilibrium model. When incorporating in Lerner symmetry effects, the gains fall away.
David Henderson
Apr 29 2025 at 10:02am
Jon,
You write:
I don’t think that’s true, but maybe I misunderstand. Please explain.
Jon Murphy
Apr 29 2025 at 10:24am
Since an import tariff is the same as an export tariff, an optimal tariff will reduce exports as it is a “begger-thy-neighbor” policy. The loss in welfare to exporters must be taken into account as well and it will typically offset any welfare gains from the optimal tariff.
David Henderson
Apr 29 2025 at 11:02am
You write:
I think you mean “an import tariff is the same as an export subsidy.”
Two things:
First, it’s not the same as. It has the same effects as. I realize that that’s picky.
Second and more substantive: of course, the loss in welfare must be taken account of. It does offset the gains, but not completely, or else it wouldn’t be called an optimal tariff.
Jon Murphy
Apr 29 2025 at 11:29am
I don’t think so. Is it not that an import tariff has the same effect as an export tax? An import tariff reduces both imports and exports.
But that’s my point. The optimal tariff is a partial equilibrium model. At least as typically constructed, it does not account for declines in exports.
David Henderson
Apr 29 2025 at 2:59pm
Jon Murphy,
You’re right about the Lerner theorem. My bad. And the amazing thing is that only 3 months ago I edited Doug Irwin’s article “Tariffs” for my Concise Encyclopedia of Economics and in it, he stated that point.
I’m pretty sure you’re wrong, though, about the optimal tariff argument holding only in partial equilibrium. But if you can give a link to a bona fide economics article making that point, I’ll plead mea culpa on that also.
Jon Murphy
Apr 29 2025 at 3:48pm
I do not. I did a quick look earlier once you pushed back. I swear I remember seeing it in a discussion, but a quick Google search found nothing. Maybe (if I am right) I’ll have to write that article.
Jon Murphy
Apr 29 2025 at 4:04pm
My turn for a mea culpa. Turns out, there was a back and forth in AER back in 1968-69 on a point very much related to mine. Bo Sondersten and Karl Vind argue that in general equilibrium, there pretty much is no such thing as an optimal tariff (1968, 58(3), 394-408).
Ronald Jones responded, showing some mathematical issues with their model (1969 59(3), 418-424).
Sondersten and Vind responded in the same issue (pgs 424-426).
Not going to lie: the math started making my eyes cross, so I didn’t delive too deep into their back and forth.
I did find a later paper that found it all depends on exchange rate passthrough.
David Henderson
Apr 29 2025 at 5:13pm
Thanks, Jon.
Jon Murphy
Apr 28 2025 at 6:59pm
I guess one more addition:
I do not think Mr Platts’s proposed alternative interpretation (that is, the lack of quantification) is reasonable given the context. This is an interview of professional, PhD economists asking their opinion. It’s not an exam of students to see if they know theory. In the context, the meaning is quite clear and literal. The interviewer is asking for a professional opinion, not a survey of the knowledge of the PhDs. Everyone already knows they know any exceptions.
In short, we shouldn’t assume bad faith on the part of the interviewer or foolishness on the part of the interviewees. I think the literal interpretation of the question, given the context, is sufficient.
Jon Murphy
Apr 29 2025 at 10:38am
By the way, here is a poll of economists from last year (2024) asking a similar question on tariffs and has the same result:
96% agree or strongly agree. 2% say “uncertain.” 2% say “disagree.”
Another one, asking “The gains for the American economy from tripling the tariffs would measurably outweigh the losses” finds similar results: 79% disagree that the gains would outweigh the losses. 15% say “uncertain.” The “Uncertain” isn’t referring to the “optimal tariff” model, but to uncertainty of measuring gains and losses in general. Only 6% agree, although I think that is likely too high. Reading the written responses, it sounds like they did misread the question and thought it asked whether the losses exceed the gains.
steve
Apr 28 2025 at 7:25pm
I think economists are suffering through the same thing so many other professions are suffering. There has been a long term effort to get the public to not trust the expertise of people who are actual experts in their area. You should only believe ideas put out by those in the tribe with which you affiliate. To be fair, there are quacks within every profession who for whatever reason gain undue attention. Sometimes the experts step out of their lane assuming because they are good at what they do they will be good at everything else. However, economists, like other professions (most of them) are in broad agreement on most issues.
That said, it doesnt help that economists hold so much influence in our politics and the area in which they tend to disagree more often than others is macro.
Steve
Mactoul
Apr 29 2025 at 12:02am
The ‘experts’ have too often been caught peddling misinformation.
And do you think the foreign policy and national security’e ‘experts’ should be deferred to uncritically?
The experts should understand that the gatekeeping era is over.
Jon Murphy
Apr 29 2025 at 7:31am
This is a great demonstration of the fears I was writing about the other day. In an ideal world, only those experts who peddle misinformation (your Facuis, your Navarros, your Mirains, etc) would get reputationally punished. Instead, the public paints with a too-broad brush and smear those who provide useful and correct information. Trust in expertise falls, which makes everyone far worse off.
Mike Burnson
Apr 30 2025 at 1:08am
Who defines “expertise”? How is the general public supposed to have any basis for evaluating the same?
You cite Fauci as an example: who would have doubted his “expertise” pre-Covid? How would everyday people have known of his deceptively masked support of the WIV? The same goes for Francis Collins. The two “preeminent” medical/health “professionals” engaged in a deliberate scheme to destroy the careers of bona fide professionals who dared challenge the government’s terrible Covid policies. Today, we know that Fauci and Collins were dangerously wrong and deceitful, and that the dissenters were correct.
The same is true of so many other subjects: the total and absolute fraud of “man-made global warming”, the “jobs created” by ARRA and other government spending, the monthly jobs reports these past several years, “education” funding, ad infinitum. The root cause of the distrust is the pernicious tentacles of government. And it is justified by experience.
Jon Murphy
Apr 30 2025 at 7:18am
Expertise simply refers to specalized knowledge. We all have expertise in at least one way, shape or form.
There are many ways the public can evaluate expertise. It’s just like any other information asymmetry problem. There are certifications, degrees, etc. That magic piece of paper on my wall that says “PhD in Economics from George Mason University” helps signal my expertise.
Evaluating the quality of information is tricker, but also not unsolvable. Roger Koppl, Maria Miniti (who are my former colleagues from Syracuse University), and I are working on a paper detailing different ways people can income the quality of information they recieve.
I have an award-winning paper where I discuss exactly this (ungated version here). See section 4 (which deals with your above question about evaluating expertise) and section 6 (which deals with getting higher quality info).
Alas, that is not so, as even private expertise is called into question. For example, you mention the monthly jobs report. Those figures are quite legitimate. Indeed, they are confirmed by private firms’ jobs reports. Yet the suspicion remains. Or the rise of anti-vaxxer sentiment.
steve
Apr 29 2025 at 11:36am
The experts are correct (some rough estimates here) 95% of the time or more. They are wrong 3 0r 4 percent of the time. 1 or 2 percent of the time they actively peddle false info. However, ideologues and people with an axe to grind about something focus on those smaller percentages to ignore the large majority about which they are correct so that they can believe something they want to believe.
Just as a reminder all scientists are wrong about stuff they believe to be true but constant research allows them to correct those beliefs. So what happens is that those who want to discredit scientists say since they were wrong about that last theory they must be wrong about everything.
Steve
Mactoul
Apr 30 2025 at 4:40am
In chronic diseases, you are better off by doing diametrically opposite of what ‘scientific consensus’ of experts says.
Mactoul
Apr 29 2025 at 12:10am
Malthus has bad odor among economists for precisely the same insight that lies at the foundation of Darwinism.
And the economists don’t appear to appreciate Darwin much either.
Malthus made no predictions. His theory is steady state. Population always presses against available resources. The pressure can be relieved by war, pestilence and vice. That populations in Western countries are not growing is entirely due to vice as Malthus understood vice.
Mike Burnson
Apr 30 2025 at 1:33am
Au contraire, mon ami!
Malthus was completely wrong, and population growth had already proven as much by his time. Global populations had been more or less steady-state for centuries until the Renaissance. It had taken 300 years for Europe’s population to double prior to the Black Death and another 200 years to be restored. Technological and scientific advances from the Renaissance forward had increased life expectancy and well-being BEFORE Malthus. Though conditions were substandard by today’s measures, they were still the best in human history through that time.
Today’s record populations enjoy the highest caloric intake in human history, proving how wrong Malthus was: food supply also increases geometrically and at a higher differential than population. The fall in fertility rates in so many countries has nothing to do with Malthus. It has to do with government taxation that makes child rearing so expensive, government programs to “take care” of persons during their dotage, and the loss of religious influence favoring marriage.
Mactoul
Apr 30 2025 at 4:45am
How does the recent population growth refute Malthus? If resources grow then population grows for a while. But again, absent the checks that Malthus postulated, the population will, sooner or later, press against the limit imposed by the resources.
The drop in birth rate is accomplished by contraception–this is what Malthus included in ‘vice’. Why contraception is practiced is somewhat different matter.
Mactoul
Apr 29 2025 at 1:07am
And is this assumption justified?
Who has expertise in ‘basic human nature’?.
The biologists or the theologists, Or maybe anthropologists?
What do practical differences in certain traits among populations matter?
Say differences in docility or impulsivity?
Knut P. Heen
Apr 29 2025 at 6:12am
The problem with a term like “general welfare” is that the term means something different to economists than to the public.
Didn’t Bastiat compare tariffs to a negative railroad? A modern version would probably be enormous potholes in the road. People would probably understand it better if the statement had been “tariffs and import quotas have the same effect as a huge pothole on the border”.
Tyler Watts
Apr 29 2025 at 10:40am
David,
Thanks for this. I saw Epstein’s piece in the WSJ and rolled my eyes at the, at best, massively overblown claims of lack of consensus among economists on things like tariff policy. I highly appreciate in particular your holding Epstein to account for claiming that “economists” on Fox News were pro-tariff. As the shrewd few townspeople in The Music Man said, “check his credentials!” Anyone can call himself an “economic commentator” as you noted, but the _real_ economists are roundly anti-tariff.
Fred Regan
Apr 29 2025 at 11:42am
Black Africans were hardly Carlyle’s only victim. He wrote every bit as contemptuously of the Irish and of Papists everywhere.