
I find the debate over the existence of a god intrinsically interesting. Among the many arguments that exist, one argument in favor of a god’s existence I find fairly clever is Alvin Plantinga’s modal ontological argument. I’m not going to get too into the weeds over the finer details of that argument here, but in very simplified and condensed form, it can be described as follows. After offering a definition of “god,” the argument simply starts with the singular premise that the existence of such a being is at least possible. From there, it utilizes modal logic to go through a series of steps to reach the conclusion that the existence of such a being is necessarily true. The argument is logically valid, and everything follows deductively from the fairly modest premise that god’s existence is merely possible. This means that to deny the conclusion of the argument, it becomes incumbent on you to dispute that first and only premise, and offer a positive argument that god’s existence is impossible.
One of the biggest counters to the modal ontological argument is to point out that there is a symmetrical argument that can be constructed to reach the opposite conclusion. That is, you can also start with the fairly modest premise that it’s simply possible that no god exists, and using the same logically valid steps, reach the conclusion that the non-existence of a god is necessarily true. In order to resolve this issue, one would need to propose some kind of symmetry breaker between these two arguments, such that we have some non-arbitrary reason to prefer one over the other. Philosophers and theologians have proposed a number of different symmetry breakers over the years – you can see a compilation and evaluation of them in this recently released paper, if you’re interested.
Why am I bringing all this up? Well, recently I posted about how I find libertarianism and classical liberalism to be more focused on reciprocity than other political philosophies. I argued that Thomas Christiano’s argument for the authority of democracy based on the obligation to show proper respect to the judgment of your fellow citizens fails because the obligation he cites (were it to exist, which is far from clear!) is reciprocal in nature. As I put it there:
I also argued that Yoram Hazony’s concerns about free trade undercutting the mutual loyalty among the citizens of a nation fails to get off the ground because of the same issue:
Like the modal ontological argument, both of these situations require a symmetry breaker before they can reach the conclusions their proponents seek. And that’s what I think classical liberal and libertarian thought help bring to the table by focusing on the reciprocal nature of these situations. Invoking symmetry isn’t a semantic stopsign, designed to end conversations. It’s an invitation to carry a conversation forward by pointing out that there is a further factor requiring attention.
In the comment section to my previous post, commenter Dylan also brought up the issue of symmetry breakers regarding externalities. Dylan points out that in many cases, people’s moral intuitions about a situation serve as a symmetry breaker. I brought up Ronald Coase’s insight about the reciprocal nature of externalities in my post – and Dylan described how widely held beliefs about particular cases will, for many people, break the symmetrical nature of the situation. As he put it:
I think this accurately describes how the vast majority of people would react to this situation. To tell someone “Well, why don’t you just pay that factory to install scrubbers if you’re so upset about their smoke and soot falling in your yard” just feels wrong. Most people have a strong reaction along the lines of “They shouldn’t be blowing soot on my house in the first place – why should I have to pay them to make it stop?”
I think that in a lot of cases, moral considerations are a source of symmetry breakers. To use an easy example, my desire that my house not be burned down interferes with Pyro Pete’s desire to burn down houses. Technically, we are imposing on each other in a reciprocal, symmetrical way. But I don’t think it’s a great moral mystery to work out what a symmetry breaker is in this circumstance. Arson is wrong, therefore my imposition on Pyro Pete’s wishes is morally justified in a way that breaks the symmetry.
Sometimes in situations where the moral obligation isn’t clear (or isn’t applicable), other sources of symmetry breakers exist. Sometimes social conventions and norms can serve as symmetry breakers. Or in the court system, one standard that’s sometimes used is the principle of the “least-cost avoider.” In this standard, if two parties are equally imposing on each other (in a way that doesn’t clearly violate some existing law or moral imperative), the responsibility to ameliorate the situation is given to whichever party faces the lowest cost of doing so. If changing the situation is a major imposition on me but only a minor inconvenience for you, then that serves as the symmetry breaker in these cases.
The libertarian and classical liberal focus on reciprocity and symmetry isn’t born of some desire to argue that all laws or interventions are always unjustified on the grounds that every situation is symmetrical. If that was the case, libertarians would be arguing that a law preventing Pyro Pete from burning down my house is unjustified – but I’ve yet to come across a libertarian in favor of arson! But libertarians and classical liberals are correct to point out that the issue of reciprocity and symmetry exist and are important issues deserving examination. Symmetry isn’t an insurmountable obstacle – but ignoring the issue isn’t justified. To the extent that libertarians and classical liberals keep this issue raised, they are doing public discourse a service.
READER COMMENTS
steve
Jun 12 2024 at 4:12pm
Why is arson wrong but dumping your ashes on someone’s yard is not wrong?
Steve
Kevin Corcoran
Jun 12 2024 at 4:22pm
Where did I say there’s nothing wrong with dumping ashes in someone else’s yard? It’s not clear to me where you saw that claim in my post. Can you elaborate?
Dylan
Jun 13 2024 at 2:02pm
I think Steve’s comment more clearly illustrates the point I was trying to make below. Which is, even the mere implication of symmetry between two sides will often raise our defenses. I’m reading into his comment, but I think the fact that you explicitly called out that Pyro Pete was wrong, where for the preceding example of the polluting factory it was “most people have a strong reaction to…”
I thought your meaning was clear enough and didn’t take you to be advocating for dumping ashes on your neighbor’s yard. But, I find it telling that even a smart guy like Steve could take your words and read that into them, even in a fully hypothetical situation where he has no stake. Now imagine how much trouble you get into if you so much as whisper an implication of a partial symmetry to a real life situation with real consequences to the person you’re speaking with.
Kevin Corcoran
Jun 13 2024 at 9:18pm
Hello Dylan –
First of all, thank you for reading and interpreting my post in the spirit in which it was intended!
You are right that framing things in terms of reciprocal imposition, or suggesting such situations are symmetrical, causes people to put their guard up or take offense. This is true even in situations that are far from morally charged or even quite trivial. An easy example that comes to mind is when an introvert who greatly dislikes small talk with strangers is seated on a plane next to an extrovert who thrives on being chatty. Very often both parties will just end up irritating each other – the introvert doesn’t understand why the chatty person keeps badgering them, and the chatty person doesn’t understand why the introvert is being so taciturn in the face of their obvious friendliness. Each party will feel like the other is imposing on them – and if you suggest to either of them that this is a symmetric situation where each imposes on the other, they’ll each likely respond very defensively.
But that is also part of why I think it’s so important to keep the issues of reciprocity and symmetry alive when we are evaluating these things. It’s not because there are no symmetry breakers – it’s because people are naturally biased to be sure they are the one being imposed upon wrongly by others – while those others will be predisposed to be equally sure of the opposite. Remembering the reciprocal nature of these situations is a necessary counterweight to that (all too natural) knee-jerk reaction. Reciprocity encourages us to be a little less self-regarding (how dare that jerk impose on me!) and a little more other-regarding (am I the one being a jerk here?).
steve
Jun 14 2024 at 11:28am
““Well, why don’t you just pay that factory to install scrubbers if you’re so upset about their smoke and soot falling in your yard” just feels wrong. Most people have a strong reaction along the lines of “They shouldn’t be blowing soot on my house in the first place – why should I have to pay them to make it stop?” ”
So you are saying it is wrong for the company to dump soot on someone else’s house? People shouldn’t have to pay to make them stop?
Steve
Dave
Jun 12 2024 at 5:28pm
A lot of questions of the form “Why is X true” should be preceded by addressing the question “is X true” (and, more probingly, “How do we know that X is true”).
Dylan
Jun 13 2024 at 12:00am
Thanks for the post, Kevin. While the concept is familiar the framing as a symmetry breaker is new, and an interesting way to approach it.
Adding to my original comment, I do think even acknowledging the symmetry is something that can get you in trouble in many social situations. Try pointing out to your wife when she is complaining of something her friend did the symmetry from her friends POV and see how well that goes over.
I think starting from a presumption of equality comes across as offensive, even if you use the symmetry breaker, which is why even the most ardent libertarian won’t start with presuming that pyro Pete has an equivalent claim.
I think that keeping the point top of mind is important, and to the extent that classical liberals do that, they are to be commended. However, from a rhetorical perspective, I think the more successful strategy is to start assuming things are not equal, and then slowly add in details that might draw out the potential symmetry.
Richard W Fulmer
Jun 13 2024 at 12:57pm
People are increasingly defining “rights” in ways that preclude reciprocity. Consider, for instance, the claims that individuals have the right to act as they choose and that their rights are violated if anyone fails to affirm, celebrate, or pay for their choice.
Moreover, many on the far right and far left believe, or claim to believe, that their ideological opponents not only do not deserve reciprocal rights but deserve no rights at all, including the right to life. Antifa activists, for example, routinely claim the right to define, identify, and kill “fascists.”
dmm
Jun 16 2024 at 9:25am
First, I find it impossible to believe, in any context, that one can prove a statement in the form “If it’s possible, it’s true.”
Second, why wouldn’t a community-defined detailed property rights regime, including a combination of the Lockean proviso, homesteading rights and (local) ‘got to live together’ common sense, prevent 99.9% of such externalities?
dmm
Jun 16 2024 at 9:27am
By the way, thanks for being interesting.
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