I just got back from a five-week visit to Spain. The first four weeks, I was teaching labor economics at Universidad Francisco Marroquín while my sons took Spanish-language classes on Islamism, Self-Government, and the Philosophy of Hayek. Then we rented a van and saw Cordoba, Seville, Gibraltar, Fuengirola, Granada, and Cuenca. During my stay, I also spoke to the Instituto von Mises in Barcelona, Effective Altruism Madrid, the Rafael del Pino Foundation, and the Juan de Mariana Institute. I had ample time to share ideas with UFM Madrid Director Gonzalo Melián, UFM professor Eduardo Fernández, Juan Pina and Roxana Niculu of the Fundación para el Avance de la Libertad, and my Facebook friend Scott McLain. Using my sons as interpreters, I also conversed with about 25 Uber drivers. Hardly a scientific sample, but here are my reflections on the experience.
1. Overall, Spain was richer and more functional than I expected. The grocery stores are very well-stocked; the worst grocery store I saw in Spain offered higher quality, more variety, and lower prices than the best grocery store I saw in Denmark, Sweden, or Norway. Restaurants are cheap, even in the tourist areas. Almost all workers I encountered did their jobs with a friendly and professional attitude. There is near-zero violent crime, though many locals warned us about pickpockets.
2. The biggest surprise was the low level of English knowledge of the population. Even in tourist areas, most people spoke virtually no English. Without my sons, I would have been reduced to pantomiming (or Google translate) many times a day. Movie theaters were nevertheless full of undubbed Hollywood movies, and signs in (broken) English were omnipresent.
3. I wasn’t surprised by the high level of immigration, but I was shocked by its distribution. While there are many migrants from Spanish America, no single country has sent more than 15% of Spain’s migrants! The biggest source country, to my surprise, is Romania; my wife chatted with fellow Romanians on a near-daily basis. I was puzzled until a Romanian Uber driver told me that a Romanian can attain near-fluent Spanish in 3-4 months. Morocco comes in at #2, but Muslims are less visible in Madrid than in any other European capital I’ve visited.
4. 75% of our Uber drivers were immigrants, so we heard many tales of the immigrant experience. Romanians aside, we had drivers from Venezuela, Peru, Ecuador, Colombia, and Pakistan. Even the Pakistanis seemed highly assimilated and almost overjoyed to reside in Spain. By the way, Uber in Spain works even better than in the U.S. The median wait time was 3 minutes, and the prices were about one-third less than in the U.S.
5. Refugees from Chavismo were prominent and vocal. One Venezuelan Uber driver was vocally pro-Trump. You might credit Trump’s opposition to Maduro, but the driver said she liked him because “He doesn’t talk like a regular politician.” I wanted to ask, “Couldn’t you say the same about Chavez and Maduro?!” but I was in listening mode.
6. I’ve long been dumbfounded by Spain’s high unemployment rate, which peaked at around 27% during the Great Recession and currently stands at about 15%. Could labor market regulation really be so much worse in Spain than in France or Italy? My chats with local economists – and observation of the labor market – confirmed my skepticism. According to these sources, a lot of officially “unemployed” workers are lying to collect unemployment insurance while they work in the black market. Immigrants reported little trouble finding work, though they did gravitate toward “New Economy” jobs like Uber driving. I still think that Spanish unemployment is a tragic problem, especially for the young. Yet properly measured, finding a job in Spain is plausibly easier than finding a job in France or Italy. (This obviously raises the question, “To what extent is unemployment in France and Italy inflated in the same way?” If you know of good sources, please share in the comments).
7. If I didn’t know the history of the Spanish Civil War, I never would have guessed that Spain ever had a militant labor movement. Tipping was even rarer than in France, but sincere devotion to customer service seems higher than in the U.S. Perhaps my sons charmed them with their high-brow Spanish, but I doubt that explains more than a small share of what I saw. A rental car worker apologized for charging me for returning my car with a 95% full tank, adding, “Sorry, but my boss will yell at me if I don’t.”
8. Catalan independence is a weighty issue for both Barcelona and Madrid libertarians. Madrid libertarians say that an independent Catalonia would be very socialist; Barcelona libertarians say the opposite. I found the madrileños slightly more compelling here, but thought both groups were wasting time on this distraction. Libertarians around the world should downplay identity and focus on the policy trinity of deregulating immigration, employment, and housing. (Plus austerity, of course).
9. UFM Madrid Director Gonzalo Melián was originally an architect. We discussed Spanish housing regulation at length, and I walked away thinking that Spain is strangling construction about as severely as the U.S. does.
10. Spanish housing regulation is especially crazy, however, because the country is unbelievably empty. You can see vast unused lands even ten miles from Madrid. The train trip to Barcelona passes through hundreds of miles of desert. Yes, the U.S. has even lower population density, but Spain is empty even in regions where many millions of people would plausibly like to live.
11. The quickest way to explain Spain to an American: Spain is the California of Europe. I grew up in Los Angeles, and often found myself looking around and thinking, “This could easily be California.” The parallel is most obvious for geography – the deserts, the mountains, the coasts. But it’s also true architecturally; the typical building in Madrid looks like it was built in California in 1975. And at least in summer, the climates of Spain and California match closely. Spain’s left-wing politics would also resonate with Californians, but Spain doesn’t seem so leftist by European standards. Indeed, Spaniards often told me that their parents remain staunch Franco supporters.
12. My biggest epiphany: Spain has more to gain from immigration than virtually any other country on Earth. There are almost 500 million native Spanish speakers on Earth – and only 47 million people in Spain. (Never mind all those non-Spanish speakers who can acquire fluency in less than a year!) Nearly all of these Spanish speakers live in countries that are markedly poorer and more dangerous than Spain, so vast numbers would love to migrate. And due to the low linguistic and cultural barriers, the migrants are ready to hit the ground running. You can already see migration-fueled growth all over Spain, but that’s only a small fraction of Spain’s potential.
13. Won’t these migrants vote to ruin Spain? I don’t see the slightest hint of this. Migrants come to work, not to change Spain. And it’s far from clear that natives’ political views are better than migrants’. Podemos, the left-wing populist party, doesn’t particularly appeal to immigrant voters. Vox, the right-wing populist party, seems to want more immigration from Spanish America, though they naturally want to slash Muslim immigration.
14. How can immigration to Spain be such a free lunch? Simple: Expanding a well-functioning economy is far easier than fixing a poorly-functioning economy. The Romanian economy, for example, has low productivity. Romanian people, however, produce far more in Spain than at home. Give them four months to learn the language, and they’re ready to roll.
15. According to my sources, Spain’s immigration laws willfully defy this economic logic. When illegal migrants register with the government, they immediately become eligible for many government benefits. Before migrants can legally work, however, they must wait three years. Unsurprisingly, then, you see many people who look like illegal immigrants working informally on the streets, peddling bottled water, sunglasses, purses, and the like. I met one family that was sponsoring Venezuelan refugees. Without their sponsorship, the refugees would basically be held as prisoners in a government camp – or even get deported to Venezuela. Why not flip these policies, so migrants can work immediately, but wait three years to become eligible for government benefits? Who really thinks that people have a right to the labor of others, but no right to labor themselves?
16. Our favorite day was actually spent in Gibraltar. Highly recommended; you simply cannot overrate the apes. I was astounded to learn that the border with Spain was totally closed until 1982, and only normalized in 1985. In a rare triumph of the self-interested voter hypothesis, 96% of Gibraltarians voted against Brexit. Crossing the border is already kind of a pain; pedestrians have to go through (cursory) Spanish and British passport checks both ways, and the car line is supposed to take an hour. I’d hate to be living in Gibraltar if security gets any tighter.
17. Big question: Why is Spain so much richer now than almost any country in Spanish America? Before you answer with great confidence, ponder this: According to Angus Maddison’s data on per-capita GDP in 1950, Spain was poorer than Argentina, Chile, Mexico, Peru, Uruguay, and Venezuela, and roughly equal to Colombia, Bolivia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Ecuador, Guatemala, and Panama. This is 11 years after the end of the Spanish Civil War, and Spain of course stayed out of World War II.
18. Related observation: Once you’ve seen Spain, the idea that underdevelopment and oppression are somehow “intrinsic to Islam” is ridiculous. The monuments of eight centuries of Muslim civilization in Spain are all around you. So are basic facts like: Muslim Cordoba was once the largest city in Europe – and plausibly the most tolerant as well. While bad outcomes are somewhat persistent, dramatic turnarounds are also common.
19. Another example: In less than a century, Spain has gone from being a battleground between reactionary Catholicism and violent atheism to a land of extreme religious apathy. Non-practicing Catholics now outnumber practicing Catholics 2:1.
20. After I visit a new country, Tyler Cowen always asks me, “Are you long or short?” In terms of potential, I’m very long on Spain. The trinity of “deregulate immigration, employment, and housing” is vital in almost every country, but this formula would do more for Spain than nearly any other country. Wise policy would make Spain the biggest economy in Europe in twenty years flat. Unfortunately, these policies are highly unlikely to be adopted anytime soon, so my actual forecast is only moderately positive. At this point, I can picture Tyler aphorizing, “The very fact that a country has massive unrealized potential is a reason to be pessimistic about its future.” But this goes too far. All else equal, a higher upper bound is clearly a reason for optimism – and by European standards, the Spanish economy is now doing very well.
21. Overall, my visit has made me more optimistic about Spain. Much of the measured unemployment is illusory, and immigrants are pouring in to profit from Spain’s combination of high productivity and linguistic accessibility. Housing policy remains bad. Since housing regulation is decentralized, however, some regions of Spain will be atypically tolerant of new construction. Where is the Texas of Spain? I don’t know, but that’s where the future is.
Correction: I originally stated that Spain had lower population density than the contiguous U.S., but I was mixing up population per square mile and population per square kilometer.
READER COMMENTS
Bernardo
Jul 17 2019 at 10:11am
Hello Brian,
As an engineering student from Portugal, who is familiar with Spain and spent a semester in Denmark – I would like to make some remarks about the grocery store comment. Ingredients in southern Europe are generally higher quality than those produced in northern Europe due to climaterical advantages. The higher number of options I think it’s due to gastronomical culture only – everything that’s offered in most groceries in Scandinavia are things that they would cook at home – and it’s not a varied cuisine at all. Prices are cheaper in southern Europe but when you adjust to buying power due to their higher earning wages, they win by miles. If prices increase 1.5x but you earn on average 2x more, that’s a win.
Cheers
Pedro Silva
Jul 17 2019 at 10:19am
One factual mistake in this text: Population density in Spain (91 per square km) is over twice that in the contiguous US (41 per square km)
Mark Brophy
Jul 19 2019 at 4:18pm
Spain is denser than Wyoming and West Texas but it’s still very empty. They ought to legalize housing construction as Brian advocates.
Floccina
Jul 17 2019 at 10:50am
There seems to be some line in Europe where on one side most everyone ignores laws that they don’t like. In Germany they pretty much obey the laws, in Spain and Italy not so much. That does seem to mean that on the side that ignores the laws the politicians get away with not fixing those laws.
S D
Aug 5 2019 at 10:36am
Spain has a lot of tourism in certain areas and it’s not a year-round business.
My relatives in Spain work in tourism and are employed seven and nine months respectively.
The non-seasonally adjusted numbers see a fall of up to a percentage point in unemployment between Q1 and Q3 every year.
John Thacker
Jul 17 2019 at 10:52am
Probably the best argument for the Catalans is the Republic of Ireland. Prior to the creation of the ROI, people (in London and Dublin both!) would have told you that an independent Ireland would be very socialist. It has not turned out that way (despite the revolutionary groups being officially socialist.) I suspect for similar reasons an independent Scotland would be less socialist than how Scotland votes as part of the UK.
Construction of houses, yes. They’re vastly more efficient when it comes to construction of public works. (In no small part because total labor costs are much lower; despite individual salaries being similar, they employ far fewer people. The US has much worse union featherbedding on such projects than supposedly more socialist Europe.)
Juan
Jul 17 2019 at 12:32pm
Spaniard here ! Thanks for your kind words about my country but I would like to give some insights to clarify your observations :
Spain suffered a huge economic crisis after the end of the civil war and remained at this state for a decade. It is important to know that fascist won the war and adopted a policy of self-sufficiency, kept the industries at the north of the country and the agricultural sector at south , one of the ways to fix the crisis was to open the country to foreign tourism and made the south a vacation destination what increased the wealth difference between both regions . These effects remains nowadays.
Some of our grandparents still remember the dictatorship with some kindness because after this decade of economic crisis the wellness improved and some other still miss those days because the manipulation of the right wings . By the way , vox is an extreme right wing party who wants to control immigration heavily , deny gay marriage , deny feminism, etc …
Facts about back labor market are misleading. It exists to some degree but doesn’t explain how we survived with such a high unemployment rates. I would say we survived because the help of our elders , also because many people emigrated to other countries in Europe and also because government helped to maintain some level of sustainability but attaching this to the black market is an argument which right wings usually use to blame citizens instead the establishment .
hope you will come back to Spain and thanks for sharing what you saw and learned!
JayT
Jul 17 2019 at 1:36pm
I’m surprised that you ran into so few English speakers. I’ve only been to Barcelona, but my experience there was that everyone was fluent in English.
Alan Goldhammer
Jul 17 2019 at 2:22pm
We been to Spain a half dozen times. English is spoken in most of the major cities in Spain. A lot of wait staff in Barcelona restaurants come from Britain and Ireland. Last year we had six different waiters at Tapas restaurants from those two areas.
To one of Professor Caplan’s points, it is no surprise that Romanians learn Spanish in a short period of time as their native language is a Romance language, albeit somewhat removed. It doesn’t pose the same difficulties as Slavic languages in terms of being able to move back and forth between languages.
Spain also has two minority languages Catalan and Basque that are regional. Some of the usage and dialect threw me off when we were in San Sebastian and Bilbao last summer where Basque is preferred to Spanish.
Cliff
Jul 18 2019 at 10:11am
Basque is not related to Spanish at all, and is not preferred to Spanish in Blbao. Basque is tightly connected to the separatist ETA terrorists, so it is rather rare for someone in Bilbao to use it. In contrast, many in Barcelona will only use Catalan and will refuse to converse in Spanish.
Steve
Jul 19 2019 at 1:12pm
Many in Catalonia prefer to use Catalan (when it’s their mother tongue) but will happily change to castellano when conversations involve non-Catalan speakers (especially foreigners from outside of Spain). For non-Catalan speaking (but understanding) residents it is not infrequent to have conversations with each side speaking their preferred language of the two. Sounds crazy but it happens all the time without people even realizing it (I’ve even seen it happen in TV interviews).
It is a myth that Catalonia is full of grim faced people refusing to communicate in Spanish. This is especially ludicrous when speaking of Barcelona which, being the main urban centre, has a huge population of immigrants from the rest of Spain and abroad who do not as a rule speak Catalan natively if at all.
Mike Davis
Jul 17 2019 at 2:40pm
I may be reading way too much into Brian’s travelogue and my own all too brief encounters with Spain, but it sounds like the place has settled into a very healthy form of orderly lawlessness. People cheat the government by working off the books and—I suspect—by not paying taxes and ignoring many other regulations. But they tend not to cheat each other—Brian doesn’t report having been cheated and if they don’t cheat tourists, they probably don’t cheat their neighbors. If that’s true, do the immigrants mostly share those norms and/or do they acquire these norms after arriving? (The fact that many seem to quickly aspire Spanish is very encouraging.)
Colin
Jul 17 2019 at 3:34pm
By the way, Uber in Spain works even better than in the U.S.
Overgeneralized statement. Uber doesn’t even work in Barcelona as well as other parts of the country.
Indeed, Spaniards often told me that their parents remain staunch Franco supporters.
Would be surprised if this was the case in Catalonia and I’m sure there’s other regional variation.
Spain doesn’t seem very leftist by European standards.
Have to think this is colored by hanging out with Spanish libertarians. I’ve personally found Spaniards to be pretty skeptical of capitalism and to generally have a left-wing bent, certainly more so than in NW Europe. Spain’s politics strike me as more organized around identity/social issues than economic ones (in fairness that hardly makes them unique). True there has been some deregulation of the labor market since 2008, but in the midst of that crisis there wasn’t much choice. And this left-wing bent is in large part why I agree the country won’t implement the wise policies needed to help unlock its potential (which is vast).
Also agree about the similarities with California, at least superficially.
Lastly, while the unemployment rates are inaccurate (IIRC even in the boom years of the 90s the official UE rate was in double digits), low salaries are very real: https://elpais.com/elpais/2015/05/14/inenglish/1431604981_253944.html
Jobs are easy to get, but well paying or even decently paying ones much less so. My wife is Spanish, and the night I met her one of the first things I asked was what she was doing in the U.S. Her response was that she gets paid 3x here what she would back home for the same work.
Colin
Jul 17 2019 at 11:12pm
Re: #17, this from page 16 of The New Spaniards may be of some use:
Colin
Jul 17 2019 at 11:17pm
The book, BTW, goes on to note that Spain also benefitted in these years from the growing prosperity of its neighbors, which employed many Spaniards (a lot went to work in German factories IIRC) and spent a lot of their new wealth on vacations to Spain (which removed its visa requirement for visitors from Western Europe in 1959). Being in a good neighborhood certainly helps with growth.
Eric B Rasmusen
Jul 18 2019 at 9:23pm
So we should give credit to Franco for Spain’s strong economy.
Steve
Jul 19 2019 at 1:17pm
As a rule I don’t think credit should be given to any military coup leaders or dictators.
I imagine much of the credit should go to the EU and big injections of cash over the years.
Sabrina
Jul 19 2019 at 2:41pm
I lived in Spain for 6 years and married a Spaniard. We left Spain in 2014 like many other people we knew because of the job market and the housing problem. I agree with what others said here that the older generation had to step in to support the younger one a lot. Many people had to go back to their parents homes or never managed to leave to begin with.
The unemployment rate might have gone down, but many of our friends have not found a stable, decently paying job. There are jobs where you get employed for a few weeks and after that you don’t know what happens. We have friends that never know if they will get payed. Then organizations find loopholes to get around paying people off before downsizing, or to get around salary increases to compensate inflation. Employees generally do not get treated well.
I love Spain and I hope it will recover. To me it often seemed like people feel treated badly by the corrupt government and the capitalistic companies. So they adopt the same sneaky philosophy to get by.
William Bruntrager
Jul 17 2019 at 5:00pm
Lots of interesting insights here. As I am in the middle of the immigration process to Spain myself, I agree completely that Spain makes legally immigrating and working much harder than it should be.
Minor point, but I have to dispute that the movie theaters are “full of undubbed Hollywood movies.” There are theaters that specialize in showing movies in “VOSE” (versión original subtitulada en español), but I would be very surprised if more than 10-20% of movies in Spain are shown with English audio, even Hollywood movies.
Alvin Rabushka
Jul 17 2019 at 7:31pm
i spent two weeks in Gibraltar in 1975. Loved every minute of it. Strongly recommend a visit if you are in the neighborhood.
Pablo
Jul 17 2019 at 7:49pm
Thanks for your comments. Possibly the most comprehensive short list summarizing Spain that I’ve seen in a while. As an expat Spaniard living in Canada, I do see now everything that was right with the Spanish system and cannot stop laughing when someone brags about Canada’s amazing quality of life, its welfare state and immigration policies. California sounds just right. Climate wise, please give me the Northern mountains and avoid the overcrowded and touristic Mediterranean coast. Family and social interactions are the strongest links in the Spanish social web, protecting one another is the main reason the country didn’t fall into despair after the crisis and the main reason alcoholism and suicidal rates are way lower than in other European and OCDE countries (Italy included so no climate or catholicism correlation as usual stated). Housing and employment regulations are still somehow rigid and obsolete making full economic recovery an odyssey but easy access to nature, family relevance, cultural and historical richness all help to make life overall more enjoyable than more perfected democracies where extreme regulations and nonsensical laws often lead to freedom limitation (Canadian parks and schools forbidding ball games, jumps, food indoors, no nudity in pools and saunas, puritan mores applied by the book without any practical consensus…)
Kurt Schuler
Jul 17 2019 at 9:52pm
Were millions more immigrants to come to Spain from Latin America, how many would learn Catalan or especially Basque? I suspect that native speakers of those languages prefer a less wealthy Spain where their languages are still thriving to a wealthier Spain where their languages are dying.
Colin
Jul 17 2019 at 11:00pm
Don’t know about Basque, but not apparent to me that Catalan is dying or even in serious trouble: http://www.catalannews.com/society-science/item/number-of-catalan-speakers-rising-despite-adverse-context
Steve
Jul 19 2019 at 1:20pm
I’m sure those people would prefer a wealthier region where immigrants learn the local language (not too hard in the case of Catalan if your native language is already Spanish).
Amir Weitmann
Jul 18 2019 at 10:08am
17. Big question: Why is Spain so much richer now than almost any country in Spanish America? Before you answer with great confidence, ponder this: According to Angus Maddison’s data on per-capita GDP in 1950, Spain was poorer than Argentina, Chile, Mexico, Peru, Uruguay, and Venezuela, and roughly equal to Colombia, Bolivia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Ecuador, Guatemala, and Panama. This is 11 years after the end of the Spanish Civil War, and Spain of course stayed out of World War II.
well, it’s mostly because of the European Union, which has forced Spain to introduce Western standards of governance, international competition and freer markets, and has therefore massively contributed to increasing the human capital in Spain.
RPLong
Jul 18 2019 at 10:47am
I have not yet had the opportunity to visit Spain, but I will do so some day. It’s building a reputation as an endurance sports training destination for European athletes (even weekend warriors).
Regarding #17, one thought I have is Spain’s inclusion in and proximity to the EU. Surely Mississippi, for example, is much wealthier than it would be if it were economically isolated from the United States. It would be great if there were a trade union across Canada, the USA, and Central and South America. What a free lunch that would be! The resulting prosperity would also likely relieve the pressure some feel to emigrate northward and increase Americans’ trust of Spanish-language immigrants from the South. Too bad.
Todd Kreider
Jul 18 2019 at 1:56pm
Caplan is making the same error he used when he discussed Russia’s economy last year since he doesn’t use GDP per capita PPP, which you need to do when making country comparisons and converting to dollars. Spain was not poorer than Mexico, Venezuela or Brazil but was poorer than Argentina.
GDP per capita (PPP)
1960 v 2016, Maddison (wiki) 1950 not given:
Spain…………… $6,000……..$30,000
Mexico……………$5,600………$16,000
Venezuela……….$6,000………$15,000
Brazil………………$4,000……….$14,000
Argentina…….$10,000…………$19,000 the exception
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_by_past_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
Bob
Jul 18 2019 at 6:37pm
In general, I think they are good observations, but you are missing a key bit: Emigration. Spain can take a lot of immigrants, but a lot of its educated youth has emigrated, and keeps doing so. Less than 20% of my graduating high school class, top 10 in the country, is currently employed in Spain. Not because there are no jobs at all there, but because the skilled market salaries are very low: A Spanish Computer Science graduate that was magically transported to, say, Minneapolis, would do about the same work for 4x the pay. Mds, engineers, scientists… if you can handle a different language, you are better off abroad.
Now, for a country that should take more immigrants, it should work harder on a national story other than blood and soil. The country might not have big racial concerns nowadays, with the right wing populists not winning a lot of seats compared to everywhere else, But it’s hard to keep this going without a system that helps integration. Getting Spanish citizenship is easy if you can claim Spanish great-grandparents, but otherwise naturalization is very difficult, and it’s even difficult for children of already naturalized parents.
Terence Molloy
Jul 20 2019 at 1:49am
Being a Brit but euro file, and worked around the globe in the petro chem industry. I made a big mistake in retirement in Thailand. Not realising what a great country Spain is. And closer to the UK. Some 5 years ago we purchased an apartment in Denia. And am now torn between 3 countries. However as age creeps on and bones weaken. It must be Spain. Great place, clean friendly locals and cost effective. And as an added bonus. I have just read in the UK press the safest place in the world for females against Thailand which is the most unsafe in the far east. With 4 granddaughters an added plus. Regards to all.
Jim Rose
Jul 20 2019 at 3:34am
Pierre Cahuc wrote a paper showing that Spanish unemployment would be 40% less if it adopted French labour laws.
About 20 years ago, I saw a story in the financial Times about how actors on the French version of the TV show Survivor sued the tribal council successfully for wrongful dismissal and received redundancy pay.
When I shared that story a year or two on Reddit, a French lawyer confirmed the truth of the matter
Justin Koenig
Jul 23 2019 at 4:18pm
Economists generally have an overly optimistic view of immigration for the receiving country. Having more people does grow an economy, of course, but per capita? I don’t think that’s so clear.
See my link for a graph of the populations of Spain against the countries listed above: Ecuador, Colombia, Guatemala and Bolivia. The latter countries simply have grown too fast. Their GDPs have all grown, but only Spain’s per-capita-GDP has skyrocketed.
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Joe
Jul 27 2019 at 2:47am
My wife was born in France and her family is from and lives here…I too believe their biggest problems lie in their moronic regulations. I see other issues as well though. A lack of property rights when it comes to squatters for one. The government is rediculously inefficient, slow and corrupt. For instance we inherited property from an Uncle. We were forced to sell because the taxes were to be paid by us at 35% of the value of the inheritance. There was no way to recoup the money through rent due to its remote location. 3 years after the sale to a non related 3rd party the government contested our FMV which also used 2 appraisals and told us we owed more taxes because they felt the property was worth more than we sold it for. We paid the inheritance tax on the FMV of the property which we based on the sale price which was in line with both appraisals we paid for. The govt valued the property at 30% or so more than we could have ever gotten for it. The entire transaction was done with local attorneys and I am a CPA in the US. I found the entire thing rediculous and I will never buy nor do I recommend anyone buy property in Spain. Being a foreigner you have different laws that apply to you than Spaniards, like higher inheritance tax rates. The people are wonderful but their laws and government are awful and as you mentioned often make zero sense economically or financially. I do find the youth know way more English than the elders though. With a few policy changes and some basic common sense regulation Spain could easily experience large growth, but like India it is not probable.
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