At the end of my last post, I said I’d be following up by describing both some of Musa al-Gharbi’s modes of analysis and assumptions in his book We Have Never Been Woke, and outline who is the “we” he describes, and what he means by “woke.”
First, the ground rules. Musa al-Gharbi sets out his examination of the woke, and of the elites, using a method of analysis he calls “analytic egalitarianism.” What he means by this is that all social groups will be considered according to the same rules:
The behaviors of white and racial and ethnicity minorities, men and women, and LGBTQ and “cishet” (cisgender, heterosexual) Americans will be discussed in equivalent terms. This is a commitment that is perhaps more radical than it appears to be at first blush.
The idea of holding everyone to the same standards and rules is a more radical approach, al-Gharbi says, because sociologists and scholars of late have used a very asymmetrical (and thus inegalitarian) methodology, casting identical behavior in very different lights based on the identity group of those engaging in that behavior:
For instance, when racial and ethnic minorities demonstrate a preference to hire, promote, mentor, and otherwise do business with coethnics, this is frequently analyzed in terms of in-group solidarity or building and leveraging social capital, and these behaviors are lauded. When whites engage in the exact same behaviors, they tend to be analyzed in a completely different way—almost exclusively through the lenses of racism and discrimination—and those who engage in such behaviors are pathologized and denounced…Indeed, even when harmful behaviors by other actors are recognized and condemned, responsibility is often still laid at the feet of the historically dominant group. For instance, hate crimes committed by African Americans are regularly attributed to white supremacy; women’s abuse and exploitation of other women (or men) is blamed on the patriarchy. As I’ve discussed elsewhere at length, while these tendencies may be well intentioned, they are also profoundly condescending—and the tortured explanations they produce tend to obscure far more than they elucidate about why certain phenomena occur, or how social orders persist, and who they serve (or don’t).
Analytic egalitarianism is also applied to considerations of racism. Musa al-Gharbi describes and endorses the definitions of racism put forth by Karen and Barbara Fields:
In equally processual terms, Karan and Barbara Fields defined “racism” as the action of applying a social, civic, or legal double standard based on someone’s (perceived) ancestry. This is roughly the definition we will adopt here…However, it is critical to note that the Fields’ definition of racism was not focused on the application of double standards that specifically favor the historically dominant group. Instead, any racialized double standard is “racist” on their definition, irrespective of its intent or purported beneficiaries…
As Karen and Barbara Fields put it, “Racial equality and racial justice are not figures of speech, they are public frauds, political acts with political consequences. Just as a half-truth is not a type of truth but a type of lie, so equality and justice, once modified by racial, become euphemisms for their opposites.”
But while al-Gharbi’s modes of analysis might, as he suggests, seem fairly radical compared to standard sociological analysis (at least in the sense of being a very different approach), there is one important respect in which it not particularly radical – it actually adheres more closely to many of the scholarly works that social justice advocates often claim as inspiration:
Consuming prominent analyses of the post-2010 era, one might gain the impression that wokeness became institutionally dominant because huge numbers of elites and elite aspirants read a bunch of Marx, Theodor Adorno, Michel Foucault, and Kimberlé Crenshaw, were completely convinced by their respective arguments, and are now trying to reshape institutions and society writ large in accordance with the prescriptions of these thinkers, as derived from their texts. In reality, many of the practices associated with wokeness betray, if anything, a lack of deep knowledge or engagement with the literatures that are purported to have spawned the dispositions, discourses, and practices in question.
He uses the example of Patricia Hill Collins, who “invented the ‘matrix of oppression’ framework illuminating that race, class, gender, and sexual oppression are intimately related and mutually reinforcing.” Describing her work, he observes how it has been cited in support of “the idea that some groups are uniformly and objectively more oppressed than others on the basis of intersectional advantages and disadvantages,” as well as “the widespread notion that people who are the most oppressed can understand society most clearly, and therefore those who identify with a greater number of, and more severely oppressed, identity categories should be given more deference and respect” in their social analysis than, say, cishet white men. But there’s a catch:
The problem with making these attributions, however, is that Collins rejected each of these ideas directly and unequivocally in Black Feminist Thought (the text that introduced the Matrix of Oppression framework).
This is a regularly occurring theme throughout al-Gharbi’s book. The ideas and arguments put forth by social justice advocates often have little resemblance, or are even diametrically opposed, to the actual contents of the work such activists often reference and claim as inspiration. Thus,
Wokeness is clearly not a result of people being indoctrinated into social justice activism through a deep reading of primary texts like these…Critically, these superficially deep yet substantively shallow modes of speaking about hot topics, big ideas, and influential thinkers are a product of enculturation, not studying in any traditional sense, not even when these discourses are adopted in college (as they often are).
So what is wokeness? And who, exactly, is it that has never been woke?
Invoking any politically charged term runs the risk of kicking off a never-ending series of disputing definitions. In order to avoid this, al-Gharbi tries to clarify what he means by the term and its usage:
Of course, the current ambivalence in the meaning, usage, and likely future of “wokeness” raises the question of what I mean by “woke” as used in this text. Let me start by marking what I do not intend: “woke” will not be used as a pejorative or a slur here. Beyond this, and perhaps to the consternation of some readers, I will decline to provide an analytic definition of the term.
An analytic definition is one that is always and everywhere true by virtue of the meaning of the words used. The classic example is that “bachelor” refers to an unmarried man. This is analytically true – being an unmarried man just is what it is to be a bachelor. But not all ideas can be defined in such analytic terms – they instead refer to clusters of overlapping and interrelated but still logically distinct concepts. But lacking an analytic definition does not mean a concept cannot be meaningfully recognized and discussed:
In fact, many of the most meaningful words in the English language are difficult to precisely define, as analytic philosophers have been demonstrating for centuries now. Consider “love,” “knowledge,” “justice,” “freedom,” “beauty.” The fact that these terms cannot be defined cleanly and unobjectionably doesn’t imply they’re meaningless and should not be used.
Musa al-Gharbi traces out the history “wokeness” as a political and social term, finding that “goes back a long way” and seems to have originated in the 1860s with an pro-worker, antislavery organization called the Wide Awakes: “In the parlance of the times, to be ‘Wide Awake’ was to be alert to social injustice, and to be committed, militantly, to do something about it.” It eventually turned to a phrase encouraging vigilance – to “stay woke” was to keep oneself constantly alert to the risks of injustice that abound. Focusing on its modern usage and the cluster of concepts around which the idea of wokeness congeals, al-Gharbi says:
Indeed, there are certain views that seem to be discursively associated with “wokeness” by both critics and sympathizers alike. Ticking through these may be useful to add some texture to our discussions because many who would now be hesitant to self-identify as “woke” may nonetheless continue to identify with some version of these beliefs – and may also view it as reasonable to associate these particular commitments with the term “woke.”
Among these ideas are support for “antiracism, feminism, LGBTQ rights, and environmentalism” while seeing all these ideas as directly tied together; an “aesthetic embrace of diversity and inclusion” paired with acknowledging past wrongs against vulnerable populations; a “focus on identity, subjectivity, and lived experience,” along with validating people’s individual perceptions of the same; a commitment to “explicit acknowledgement of various forms of privilege”; a belief in “‘unconscious bias’ which creates the need to ‘work’ on oneself” but is never fully eradicable; and a “tight focus on disparities between groups,” although this focus is applied in a way that is asymmetrical. Thus, “disparities between men and women that favor men are presumptively viewed as evidence of sexism (while those that favor women are unproblematic),” and racial or ethnic disparities “that favor whites specifically are taken as evidence of racism” but “if other racial or ethnic groups outperform whites on various measures this is often ignored: the focus is on whites.”
Additionally, al-Gharbi notes that wokeness harbors an “approach to identity that is, for lack of a better term, somewhat mystical.” According to the woke, “race is held as a fiction in need of being abolished and transcended” and is “held to be biologically unreal,” yet at the same time race is said to be permanent and immutable based on the biology of your birth, and “virtually any social phenomenon should be analyzed and discussed in terms of race, and failure to do this is viewed as an unwillingness to be ‘real.’” Gender and sexuality, to the woke, are “fluid, nonbinary, and socially constructed” and are thus artificial and even arbitrary social constructs, but at the same time gender identity and sexual orientation are innate, unchangeable, and fixed at birth such that “people can essentially be ‘born’ gay or born trans (i.e., ‘born in the wrong body’).”
However, al-Gharbi makes it clear that he thinks this “mystical” approach to identity is not in itself a critique of woke ideas:
The discursive association of the aforementioned ideas with “wokeness” therefore implies nothing about their “rightness” or “wrongness.” The observation on the “mystical” nature of beliefs about identity is likewise intended as a description, not a critique. As a Muslim, I don’t necessarily view it as a problem to hold beliefs with these sorts of deep tensions (see: free will and divine providence, for instance) – however, it is important to be aware of, and wrestle with, apparent contradictions.
So if this is wokeness, who are the woke? Musa al-Gharbi identifies wokeness as the dominant ideology of a group of people he calls “symbolic capitalists”:
The Americans most likely to profess beliefs associated with wokeness tend to be the Americans most likely to become symbolic capitalists: highly educated, relatively affluent white liberals.
Symbolic capitalists are social elites – highly educated and highly paid professionals. According to al-Gharbi, “what is often referred to as ‘wokeness’ can be fruitfully understood as the ruling ideology of this increasingly dominant elite formation.” Thus, wokeness is a movement not of the common people, but of the elites:
The genuinely marginalized and disadvantaged in society are not the folks who tend to embrace and propagate these ideas and frameworks. Instead, highly educated and relatively affluent professionals associated with the symbolic economy are the most likely to embrace (and enforce) these norms, dispositions, and discourses.
In fact, the political preferences of the woke not only don’t match the ideas and preferences of those the woke claim to seek to uplift – it often conflicts with the desires of these very people:
For instance, many highly educated white liberals, eager to demonstrate their alignment to causes like Black Lives Matter, aggressively embraced “defunding the police,” even though African Americans themselves generally rejected this aspiration…However, publicly striking the “right” posture on this issue seemed to matter more to adherents than advancing the stated preferences of Black people or building and sustaining viable coalitions that could achieve concrete change.
This extends beyond policy differences to perceptions of daily reality:
After 2011, there were dramatic changes in how highly educated white liberals answered questions related to race and ethnicity. These shifts were not matched among nonliberal or non-Democrat whites, nor among nonwhites of any political or ideological persuasion. By 2020, highly educated white liberals tended to provide more “woke” responses to racial questions than the average Black or Hispanic person; they tended to perceive much more racism against minorities than most minorities, themselves, reported experiencing; they expressed greater support for diversity than most Blacks or Hispanics. White Democrats also became significantly more likely to perceive others in their social circles as “racist,” even as nonwhite copartisans moved in the opposite direction (and white non-Democrats were flat).
But before going too much further down this line, it’s worth taking a break here and examining what, exactly, a symbolic capitalist is supposed to be? What is it to participate in what al-Gharbi calls the “symbolic economy,” what is the “symbolic capital” used by this group of elites, and how does it relate to woke ideology? These ideas will be outlined in more detail in the next post.

READER COMMENTS
Monte
Jul 31 2025 at 11:14pm
Woke elitists and their elitist detractors (that is to say, liberal virtue-signalers and conservative vice-signalers) are nothing more than present-day scribes and Pharisees described by Jesus as those who “make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, and they love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues.” It seems to me that these are the symbolic capitalists of which Musa al-Gharbi speaks.
steve
Aug 1 2025 at 10:52am
He doesnt define woke? One of the central concepts in his book? I can understand that I guess because if you dont you can then lump in anything you want and you can especially ignore the different degrees or levels of belief. While it is true that it is hard to define love we dont then go on to write books under the veneer of science about love. That’s for poets and songwriters. This wouldn’t be tolerated in other areas of science and would invalidate a lot of his claims. He can still make interesting points but whether or not they are perceived to be true will mostly be based upon one’s own biases.
I think his chosen definition of racism lacks a couple of things, first of all context. If one race suffers at the hands of another race for hundreds of years then they are suddenly declared equal, are attempts to diminish the effects of hundreds of years of lost capital, including human capital, truly racist in the same that slavery based upon race, employment or incarceration rates based upon race the same thing? (Besides which the belief that everything was immediately equal is naive at best.)
It also ignores the fact that laws or actions by people/governments that are not based upon race can consistently result in negative consequences for different minority groups. Those laws were not intended to have negative consequences on a minority group and are largely carried out by people without racist beliefs yet if they consistently affect a minority group negatively more than another it’s clearly wrong. It has been given the term systemic racism, which of course offends some people even if it’s real. Maybe it should just have another name and then it will be easier to change.
Steve
Kevin Corcoran
Aug 1 2025 at 8:43pm
You misunderstand. He doesn’t give an analytic definition of woke. But almost nobody can provide an analytic definition of anything. Maybe you’re of the opinion that only analytic definitions count as real definitions, but that would be a rather weird line to take. Regardless, he did list out a series of interrelated beliefs and dispositions – if you hold to the cluster of ideas and dispositions he describes, then you qualify as woke. If not, then not. If that still leaves you feeling confused and unsure about what woke is supposed to mean for the purpose of this discussion, then I don’t know how to help you. It seems perfectly clear to me. And from what I’ve seen of how other people have engaged with his work – supporters and critics alike – it’s been clear to them too. Along with other people I’ve talked to who read his book – also supporters and critics among them too. Given that his description seemed perfectly lucid to me, and to everyone else I know of who read the book, and that you seem to be entirely unique in not being able to understand it, I’ll just try my best to work with you, I guess.
Who is “we?” I mean, sure, if by “we” you mean the two of us, then that’s true. But if your claim is that nobody writes books about love (or any other term that lacks a clear analytic definition) under the veneer of science or sociological analysis, then that’s just plainly, wildly, false. An enormous amount of work has been published doing exactly that, by some of the most brilliant scientific minds humanity has produced, for centuries. “Happiness,” for example, lacks an analytic definition, yet scientists have done a significant amount of fruitful work studying human happiness. So, too, with an idea like “flourishing.” Nobody can provide an analytic definition of “knowledge” either, yet scientists have done volumes of useful work on studying human knowledge. There is no analytic definition for “health”, yet there is a great deal of scientific research done on the subject. Ad infinitum. Acting as though only poets can write meaningfully about ideas that lack analytic definitions is…definitely an odd take, putting it mildly.
The term “mammal” refers to a cluster of somewhat related but logically distinct traits, and we generally class things as “mammal” as long as they have enough of those traits. But not all mammals have all of these traits, and each of these traits are also found in animals that are not mammals. Hence, the term “mammal” lacks an analytic definition. Musa al-Gharbi also lists out a cluster of somewhat related but logically distinct ideas and dispositions, and classes someone as “woke” as long as they hold to enough of those beliefs and dispositions. Not everyone who is woke holds every single of these beliefs, and any of those beliefs individually can be held by someone who isn’t woke. What is woke for the purpose of this book is defined about as well as what is a mammal in biology. By your exact reasoning, we should therefore conclude no scientist would ever do any work about mammals under the veneer of doing scientific research – writing about mammals is something to be left to poets! Clearly that’s just silly though.
Actually, al-Gharbi’s work does account for things like disparate impact.
steve
Aug 2 2025 at 10:11am
I overstated my case on the definition thing since I was pretty disappointed. There are some things we define but just make a list of attributes for that thing, like a syndrome. The problem then becomes how many of those items on the list do you need to have to meet the definition. How do you determine what goes on the list? (I would disagree on mammals but your other points are good and show that I was wrong in a lot of what I said.)
As an aside I would agree that it is hard to find an analytical definition of health, but that then leads to a major weakness in discussions on health. People can make bizarre claims regarding health and how to achieve it and since there is not a precise definition someone will almost always believe them.
Steve
Kevin Corcoran
Aug 3 2025 at 7:50am
This is certainly a problem for many things – there will always be some feature that some people might reasonably think doesn’t belong on the list, or a feature some people think should be included, there will always be some vagaries about if any of those features are essential in themselves, or how many features are required to qualify etc. There will always be edge cases and fuzzy borders, and room for disagreement.
But now, a seemingly random digression to, of all things, Jordan Peterson.
Recently he was involved in an encounter where he would sit at a table and various people would rotate it to the table taking turns to debate him. It turned out to be a bit of a fiasco – he seemed to deflect answering almost any question. Asked if he believed in God, he would instead tie the person up asking questions in return like “well, what do you think it means to “believe” something? Define what makes something a belief?” Maybe Jordon Peterson was only doing that because he just really wanted everything to have rigorous metaphysical definitions to ensure the discussion could be of the highest quality possible – but I’m skeptical.
Returning to the topic at hand – in previous comments on this blog, you’ve shown a willingness to offer up a definition of “woke” that is rather less precise than what al-Gharbi offers, going so far as to say that being woke just means believing there is still some racism in society. This isn’t a great definition, I think, because by that definition I am woke, George Will is woke, Yoram Hazony is woke, and Ben Shapiro is woke. Yet, when you’re inclined to cast “wokeness” in a positive light, you’re willing to accept a definition of “woke” that is so broad and vague that it fails to distinguish Yoram Hazony from Ta-Nehasi Coates. By contrast, al-Gharbi’s definition, while it suffers from the difficulties that come with defining almost any interesting term, is far more precise – it successfully captures far more people on the Coates side of things and basically zero Hazony-style thinkers. Yet, when it’s a critical evaluation of wokeness, suddenly this isn’t a good enough definition, and the conversation can’t go forward unless al-Gharbi defines “wokeness” with a degree of analytic precision basically nobody can offer for anything. Maybe that’s just because you’re solely motivated to ensure the most rigorous possible definition is made to ensure the highest quality discussion possible – but I’m skeptical of that too, given the loose and vague definition of wokeness you offer up when the goal is to say nice things about it.
In any case, for future posts, “woke” will be defined as holding to the cluster of beliefs and dispositions al-Gharbi identified. If you wish to define it differently in your own conversations, that’s your call to make, but for at least the purpose of this series it will be more productive if you just table your preferred definition and mentally substitute the above list of ideas every time the term “woke” is used.
Robert EV
Aug 6 2025 at 2:23pm
To be fair to other biologists, they tend to talk about clades. Since it is monophyletic, “mammal” is analytically defined as all descendants from a particular last common ancestor. It’s non-monophyletic groups such as “ducks” that can’t be analytically defined.
Robert EV
Aug 1 2025 at 3:38pm
Popping out before I read the rest:
This misunderstands what white supremacy and patriarchy are as explanatory ideas. White supremacy is an explanation of power dynamics in the world, and in the US. The term “white” is there because, as a racial categorization, it is on the top in the US. In China “Han supremacy” would be used. It is the “supremacy” that is important for the power dynamics of hate crimes, the “white” merely attempts to explain who does what sort of hate crimes and why. White against non-white in order to maintain white supremacy. Non-white against non-white in order to maintain a status above other non-whites, and even attempt to whitewash one’s group (since we’re talking about groups), as has been done in the past with the Irish and Italians. And Non-white against white in order to overturn the supremacy (I, am Spartacus).
Similar frameworks are defined in feminist discussions of patriarchy. Examples: The female “not like the other girls pick-mes” (which are the mirror image of male “nice guys”), and some women abusers who act like Ghislaine Maxwells for the men in their lives.
And in both of these systems there is acknowledgement of the perniciousness of the systems in getting low-status white men to work against their interests that are shared with the other low-status groups. By getting them to believe that doing so will place them on top in this fictitious group hierarchy. It works differently, on average, for white men than for black men, or for white men than for black women. And yet similar for black women and Hispanic women and even white women (vis-a-vis men within their ethnic group), or southeast Asian men and Native American men. Which is why these systems are called “white supremacy” and “patriarchy”.
I’ll read the rest when I get home from work.
Kevin Corcoran
Aug 1 2025 at 8:52pm
I would say that most of what you put down falls into the type of thing al-Gharbi describes as “tortured explanations [that] tend to obscure far more than they elucidate about why certain phenomena occur, or how social orders persist, and who they serve (or don’t)” while also being “profoundly condescending.”
Your claims also include straightforward factual errors, such as when you say
This simply isn’t true – on almost every measure or outcome you care to look at, white American’s are not “on the top in the US”, or even at the upper end. In almost every way, the outcomes for whites tend to be, well, around middle of the pack – not “on the top.” As is his wont, Scott Alexander summed up the point nicely when he wrote:
Robert EV
Aug 4 2025 at 4:05pm
OFFS. I’m a renter. I do not own stock. My retirement in my mid-40s consists of 10 years vested in a pension at a job I don’t want to hold forever, but may end up in forever.Plus social security. I’m smart, and have a decent job, but am otherwise not privileged. In my life I’ve stocked vending machines and have delivered office supplies with a bum knee (torn meniscus that I had to let heal naturally, as I couldn’t afford surgery).
Whites are on the top in the US. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/01/21/119th-congress-brings-new-growth-in-racial-ethnic-diversity-to-capitol-hill/
And from another link:
As of 2024, there are 66 female CEOs in all Fortune 500 and S&P 500 companies, up from 32 in 2014; there are 92 ethnically diverse CEOs, a significant increase from 41 in 2014.
In the study of 674 companies, an all-time high of 99 CFO positions, or 15% of the total, are held by people of color. This includes 9.9% by Asian-Americans, 2.4% by Hispanic individuals, and 2.6% by African Americans.
This doesn’t mean that some white people aren’t also in the middle or on the bottom. It just means that our governing elite are not yet representative of the people. When it comes to being an elite, whites (and men) are currently supreme. And it’s a slow slog against entrenched mores changing that.
I AM NOT A GROUPIST. Yet I still need to discuss these sorts of things with groupists. I care about the individual. I want a system that facilitates each individual living up to their potential. This will not happen, unfortunately, because of good old boys networks that are still predominantly white. Eventually, as tokens become non-token amounts, we may get to a good old peeps network that discriminates based on personality (we’re already there to some extent with “cultural fit” criteria), but we aren’t there yet. Once we get there we’ll need to address that as well.
Lee Cornell
Aug 4 2025 at 12:39pm
It seems to me that “woke” should be defined as believing that every person should have the same basic rights. They do not lose their rights because of race, religion, level of education, sexual identity, wealth, income, or any other characteristic. And the idea that we should curry favor with some person or group by simply ignoring one or more of these (e.g. sexual identify) is wrong.
Robert EV
Aug 4 2025 at 4:50pm
An issue is what’s a basic right, and does this include positive as well as negative rights. A right to a place to sleep is very different from forbidding the rich and poor alike from sleeping on the street.
From the Griggs v. Duke Power US Supreme court decision:
Unfortunately the moment this ruling came out, lawyers and business managers went to work finding loopholes. Or where loopholes couldn’t be found, plausible deniability.
Robert EV
Aug 4 2025 at 4:20pm
I’ll preface this by saying I understand the kind of person he’s talking about. A decade ago I went to one of those MoveOn gatherings. There was a discussion about a wealth tax, and one of the people there spoke against it on the basis of what if you’re taxed one year on your wealth and the next year it drops in value, would there be a refund of the tax?. I was thinking (but didn’t speak up) that I had just been fired from one job and got another. No one gets an income tax refund when they are fired or laid off. So yeah, I understand these kinds of people.
But now to further critique of this book and your post:
It’s been a big, relatively newish, issue in education that boys doing worse in school is a problem that needs to be addressed. In larger terms this is covered under the “model minority myth”, where assuming that a person is talented in some way, because of their being from a particular minority, is considered harmful.
Seriously?! What he is ‘defining’ boils down to: It’s a problem to make assumptions about a person based on their presumed membership in some sort of category. But given that these assumptions have been made since time immemorial, and that our current milieu is predicated on these assumptions, one should account for the impact of those assumptions on a person. Also, individuals have distinct limits that aren’t just culturally imposed (though a cultural context, like the rest of the environment, can inform the expression of these limits, sometimes reinforcing them, and sometimes ameliorating them), so be on the lookout for said limits and cultural enforcement so that you aren’t part of enforcing them, but of ameliorating them.
Yes, and the strongest Catholics, after the clergy, were the royals and nobles who depended on the divine right of kings to hold their place (or conquer new lands). This didn’t mean the strongest in faith weren’t the hoi polloi. When determining what people believe, and how strongly they hold to those beliefs, it’s necessary to formulate your questionnaires into phrases salient to your audience. This also means using questions that will parse out the true beliefs of the social elites. There’s a reason social scientists use lie scales.
Those at the bottom, rightly or wrongly, think the system is rigged against them, far more than any elites think the system is rigged against those at the bottom. This is what being woke is about.
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