From the Boston Globe.
The 10-member commission, which includes key legislators and members of Governor Deval Patrick’s administration, voted unanimously to largely scrap the current system, in which insurers typically pay doctors and hospitals a negotiated fee for each individual procedure or visit. That arrangement is widely seen as leading to unneeded tests and procedures.
Instead, the group wants private insurers and the state and federal Medicaid program to pay providers a set payment for each patient that covers all that person’s care for an entire year and to make the radical shift within five years. Providers would have to work within a predetermined budget, forcing them to better coordinate patients’ care, which could improve quality and reduce costs.
I think it is fair to conclude from this that the Massachusetts health reform plan, which in some ways is the model for the plans currently under discussion in Congress, was a failure. Thanks to Mark Ambinder for the pointer.
Maybe the commission’s proposal is a step in the right direction. Even if it is, I would suggest that perhaps no expert knows how to design the health care system. We may need a lot of trial and error. Government takeover means that you try something new every few years…maybe. Your choices are limited because entrenched interests preclude many options.
With markets, trial and error takes place continuously. A lot more things get tried. Failure gets weeded out more ruthlessly.
Of course, no one on the Left believes that. The core belief there is that experts know best, and that experts are only thwarted by evil corporations and stupid conservatives. The notion that no expert knows very much, and that the evolution of market processes produces better outcomes, is too threatening to contemplate.
READER COMMENTS
Yancey Ward
Jul 18 2009 at 12:26pm
A commenter on Megan McArdle’s blog, CappedMD, made the following points about the 1990s experiments with capitation:
spencer
Jul 18 2009 at 12:32pm
With markets, trial and error takes place continuously. A lot more things get tried. Failure gets weeded out more ruthlessly.
Yet you hate what the market system has evolved into for health care.
Health insurance is a market solution for unacceptable risk.
But you want to eliminate or at least drastically change the market solution that has evolved.
I’m on the left and I agree completely with your statements about markets evolving.
From reading your blogs I have come to the conclusion that I believe in markets a lot more than you do.
I know, you are going to claim that the health insurance market is not a free market and all the problems are due to government interference.
Government interference is a very convient excuse for libertarians. When ever markets generate results you do not like you search and search and search until you find some way to blame government. I agree with you that government is inefficient and wasteful.. But so are private markets and that is my problem with your philosophy is that you refuse to recognize that markets can be imperfect and wasteful just like government.
Sulla
Jul 18 2009 at 12:55pm
I don’t think Mr. Kling ever said markets are perfect or not wasteful. It’s just that markets are more efficient at correcting waste and finding new solutions.
RL
Jul 18 2009 at 3:09pm
“Government interference is a very convient excuse for libertarians.”
Yes. It works especially well in those areas where government pays 50% of the costs of services.
Milton Recht
Jul 18 2009 at 4:18pm
Kling says, “With markets, trial and error takes place continuously. A lot more things get tried. Failure gets weeded out more ruthlessly.”
However, I believe Kling would agree that to his Darwinian (Spencerian) evolutionary analogy, one must add the effects and distortion of the ecosystem. In an economy, government laws and government programs are part of the ecosystem.
A market based health system must conform to the distortions created by the employer tax deduction for health benefits, Medicare hospital and doctor pricing and reimbursement rules, Medicaid, state health insurance laws, etc. This is the ecosystem.
Our attempts at a market based health reform exist within this system. If we are unhappy with our health delivery or our health insurance and reimbursement system (which are often confused with each other in the debate), it is essential to change the ecosystem, i.e. our laws and government programs, to allow a health system to develop based on undistorted consumer demand and profitability. Undistorted is not the same as unregulated, but that is a separate topic.
One of the key differences between government attempts and private market based attempts is that the evaluation is sequential as opposed to parallel. In government, one system is set up and allowed to exist until outside pressures, such as costs, electorate dissatisfaction, etc., force a reevaluation and a modification to the system. Different attempts do not compete against each other within the same period. This is what is happening in Massachusetts’ health reform legislation now.
In a market, different attempts are tried almost simultaneously (or within overlapping periods) so the user or consumer has choice. Continued existence requires the ability to attract users and the ability to be profitable. Maintaining costs levels to achieve profitability is essential for survival unless subsidies exist. Successful systems survive and unsuccessful ones wither away due to lack of demand (sometimes it is the product and other times it is the pricing), due to excessive costs or due to a competitor’s better and cheaper product.
Government, at times, tries to be more like a market system through limited use of pilot programs. However, pilots are more like drug trials than a market-based economy. The participants and time are limited. Consultants then usually evaluate the program’s success based on politically selected parameters instead of consumer demand and profitability.
Another difference between market-based and government-based programs is flexibility versus bureaucratic rigidities. If a business owner sees that a service or its pricing is not working, the owner has the control and power to attempt to make positive modifications as quickly as possible. In government, there are no owners. However, the programs must continue to meet rigid legal and regulatory requirements. Additionally, users usually do not have alternative options to a government program and can only voice, if at all, their dissatisfaction to the press and their politicians.
Consumer choice in an undistorted marketplace leads to consumer satisfaction. The result in not always the theoretical best or the cheapest, but it is the one that contributes the most to consumer satisfaction. If the consumer is not satisfied, the product and service will disappear and something else will replace it. If more consumer satisfaction is available at the same or lower price from a different product, it will replace what exists.
Undistorted consumer choice determines survivability in a free and competitive marketplace, and increases consumer satisfaction, even in a health care system.
Sarge
Jul 18 2009 at 5:27pm
@spencer
“…my problem with your philosophy is that you refuse to recognize that markets can be imperfect and wasteful just like government.”
Oh, bunk. You’re either not very familiar with Arnold’s views, or you are deliberately creating a straw man. To be charatable and assume the former, I’d recommend that you look up Mr. Kling’s essay on Masonomics. He has no problem accepting the existence of market failure. Consider the following excerpt:
“Masonomics says, ‘Markets fail. Use markets.’
“Somewhere along the way, mainstream economics became hung up on the concept of a perfect market and an optimal allocation of resources. The conditions necessary for a perfect market are absurdly demanding. Everything in the economy must be transparent. Managers must have perfect information about worker productivity and consumers must have perfect information about product quality. There can be nothing that gives an advantage to a firm with a large market share. There cannot be any benefits or costs of any market activity that spill over beyond that market.
“The argument between Chicago and MIT seems to be over whether perfect markets are a ‘good approximation’ or a ‘bad approximation’ to reality. Masonomics goes along with the MIT view that perfect markets are a bad approximation to reality. But we do not look to government as a ‘solution’ to imperfect markets.”
You are free to believe, if you so choose, that the best way to correct inefficiency in the market is through government action. Although, given that you admit that government itself is wasteful and inefficient, why you think this would reduce rather than compound the overall level of waste is beyond me. And I think it’s fair to say that neither theory nor history support your assertation, but I’m always willing to be shown wrong. However you really shouldn’t accuse someone of believing something he contradicts on the very blog you’re making the accusation.
Bob Murphy
Jul 18 2009 at 7:51pm
Why isn’t the left outraged about them kicking legal, tax-paying immigrants out of the system? They are obviously going to ration treatment for politically weak groups. This will be awful for poor people. The rich will still be able to buy care, on the black market or abroad if need be.
mm
Jul 18 2009 at 8:22pm
“We may need a lot of trial and error. Government takeover means that you try something new every few years . . . maybe. . . . With markets, trial and error takes place continuously.”
But only government can try new types of market arrangements. Our current regulatory/market structure has been around for decades and is not producing the outcomes most citizens prefer when compared with many other industrialized nations.
Dr. T
Jul 18 2009 at 10:28pm
“Providers would have to work within a predetermined budget, forcing them to better coordinate patients’ care, which could improve quality and reduce costs.”
I love how the bureaucrats and politicians predetermine the outcome: “forcing them to better coordinate care.” How about “forcing them to choose less expensive but less optimal diagnostic tests and less expensive but less effective therapies.” Or how about: “forcing them to offer patients with chronic illnesses fewer visits per year.” Or “forcing them to refer fewer patients to specialists who could shorten the time to correct diagnosis and the time to optimum therapy.”
Capitated health care plans work only under limited conditions. It is not a panacea for all health care financing problems. I don’t understand why Massachusetts’ politicians are expending energy to fix their health care mess, because citizens of Massachusetts soon can switch to ObamaCare.
Consumatopia
Jul 18 2009 at 11:26pm
But only government can try new types of market arrangements.
So true. Things within the system can evolve, but the system itself can only evolve if it is faced with some outside pressure. That’s why democracy and the marketplace need each other.
Les
Jul 19 2009 at 9:23am
“Instead, the group wants private insurers and the state and federal Medicaid program to pay providers a set payment for each patient that covers all that person’s care for an entire year and to make the radical shift within five years. Providers would have to work within a predetermined budget, forcing them to better coordinate patients’ care, which could improve quality and reduce costs.”
Isn’t this just a long-winded description of an HMO, designed to minimize costs of medical care by withholding it from patients to the fullest possible extent? In other words, socialized medicine?
cputter
Jul 19 2009 at 11:11am
“But only government can try new types of market arrangements.”
The solutions the market finds are only limited by reality and the limitations governments place on free markets. Entrepreneurs will try out any form of ‘market arrangement’ if they’re allowed to, there’s no need for government intervention. Government intervention in any form only harms some part of the market. Even policies that ostensibly aim to ‘help’ some industry can only do so at the expense of another industry.
Ultimately it comes down to the fact the free market attempts to solve problems through the willing cooperation of all participants. Whereas every action undertaken by the state is done through the use of force.
If you believe people should solve problems by forcing your solutions on everyone you’re welcome to the idea. I find it absurd.
Marco
Jul 19 2009 at 11:18am
@ Spencer
“Government interference is a very convenient excuse for libertarians.”
Tell that to the citizens on New Jersey, who saw their insurance rates jump at astronomical rates, after politicians decided insurance companies weren’t allowed to discriminate on pre-existing conditions. Guess what happened, people decided to cancel their insurance, and only sign up once they got sick!!! Duh.
How about laws that dictate minimum plans that include chiropractic and mental health coverage. Minimum plan prices go up because of political meddling.
People love to point to Europe; fortunately for them, their electoral system is much less dependent on campaign contributions, so lobbyists don’t have the ability to buy off some politicians, and make the rest of the market (for healthcare) pay. This little fact is often overlooked, then people think you can just pick a panel of smart people to make decisions on coverage.
Thomas B.
Jul 19 2009 at 11:45pm
Thought this was a compelling post, until the straw man used to dismiss everyone on the left.
James
Jul 20 2009 at 1:15am
Spencer:
Take a good look at the arguments that your politics lead you to make!
It’s false to claim the present state of affairs in health care is an example of free markets in action and dishonest to write off any objection to that categorization on the grounds that it is “convenient” for libertarians.
Convenient or not, the government really does get involved in the healthcare market. Convenient or not, this involvement really does affect what gets produced, how much it costs, and how the costs are distributed.
If my politics left me in a position where I had to make arguments like the one you made above, I’d change my politics.
Tom
Jul 20 2009 at 9:47am
“From reading your blogs I have come to the conclusion that I believe in markets a lot more than you do.”
Trouble is, Spencer, that you believe a sector 60% government funded, and 100% government regulated is a free market.
Tom
Jul 20 2009 at 9:55am
And Thomas B.,
I find the left to be self dismissing – no straw man needed.
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