Audio on the Crisis
It’s here. I start about 7-1/2 minutes in, and Russ Roberts starts about 33 minutes in. Russ sounds great. Mine probably reads better than it sounds. You can read a decent approximation of what I said here. Then listen to Russ. If you listen to both of us, listen to Russ on lower volume. He talks much louder than I do.
Another link to my paper is here.