There have been some interesting developments with NPR recently. A long time veteran of the organization, Uri Berliner, wrote an essay lamenting that the organization has gone from and admittingly left-leaning but still rigorous and fair journalistic enterprise to a politically driven monoculture that lets ideology drive its reporting. NPR, he says, no longer facilitates viewpoint diversity or permits any dissenting voices – leading NPR in turn to suspend Berliner after he voiced his dissent. Berliner resigned shortly thereafter.
Naturally this got a lot of attention, and people have recently started highlighting a TED talk given by Katherine Maher, NPR’s new CEO and former CEO of the WikiMedia Foundation – the parent organization for Wikipedia. In her TED talk Maher made the following comment:
Now, there’s obviously reason to be concerned when someone heading a major journalistic organization is worried that holding an excessive respect for what’s true is an obstacle to getting things done. But that aside, I think she’s got things exactly wrong here. Seeking the truth, and holding a reverence for truth, is the best chance we have to find common ground. Indeed, it may be the only way to do so.
An opposite worldview to the one she espouses was described in a fun video on the Veritasium YouTube channel, outlining the history of how mathematicians calculated values for pi and how Issac Newton revolutionized this process. (Well, I think it’s a fun video anyway – your mileage may vary!) At one point, the discussion turns to Pascal’s Triangle and Derek Muller, the host of the channel, mentions how Pascal’s Triangle was independently discovered by multiple mathematicians at different times and from very disparate locations. Discussing this with math professor Alex Kontorovich led to the following exchange at the six minute and twenty-five second mark:
Muller: The thing that fascinated me when I started looking at those old documents was how even though I don’t speak those languages and I don’t know those number systems it is obvious, it is clear as day, that they are all writing down the same thing, which today in the Western world we call Pascal’s Triangle.
Kontorovich: That’s the beauty of mathematics! It transcends culture, it transcends time, it transcends humanity. It’s going to be around well after we’re gone, and ancient civilizations and alien civilizations will all know Pascal’s Triangle.
All these mathematicians were able to converge on common ground despite different cultures and being separated by thousands of miles and centuries of time because they were all dedicated to working out what was true. Now, admittedly I’ve made things easy on myself by using an example from mathematics. Things are much harder when moving to more ideologically and emotionally charged issues such as religion or political ideology. But I agree with G.E. Moore that the difference is merely a matter of difficulty and not a matter of kind. Comparing errors in moral reasoning to errors of mathematical reasoning, Moore wrote:
But this additional difficulty does not mean that we ought to abandon our attempts to seek the truth, or that reverence for the truth is a counterproductive distraction. It means we need to heavily emphasize a reverence for the truth as a necessary counterweight to our personal flaws and biases in these matters. To see examples of this in the real world, consider the idea of adversarial collaborations. The idea has been promoted by Scott Alexander, such as his description of one particular instance of it working:
Let’s go back to that Nyhan & Reifler study which found that fact-checking backfired. As I mentioned above, a replication attempt by Porter & Wood found the opposite. This could have been the setup for a nasty conflict, with both groups trying to convince academia and the public that they were right, or even accusing the other of scientific malpractice.
Instead, something great happened. All four researchers decided to work together on an “adversarial collaboration” – a bigger, better study where they all had input into the methodology and they all checked the results independently. The collaboration found that fact-checking generally didn’t backfire in most cases. All four of them used their scientific clout to publicize the new result and launch further investigations into the role of different contexts and situations.
Instead of treating disagreement as demonstrating a need to transmit their own opinion more effectively, they viewed it as demonstrating a need to collaborate to investigate the question together.
And yeah, part of it was that they were all decent scientists who respected each other. But they didn’t have to be. If one team had been total morons, and the other team was secretly laughing at them the whole time, the collaboration still would have worked. All it required was an assumption of good faith.
These researchers were able to find common ground precisely because of their desire to seek the truth and because of their reverence for the truth. And if combatting disinformation is among the things you want to get done, doing so effectively requires knowing things like whether fact-checking has a backfire effect. So, on both counts, Maher is wrong. Truth-seeking is what we all ought to be engaging in – journalists or otherwise.
READER COMMENTS
David Henderson
Apr 25 2024 at 2:47pm
Nice post.
I have doubts about Scott Alexander’s comment about morons, but otherwise he makes a great point.
Richard W Fulmer
Apr 25 2024 at 3:13pm
Maher’s claim that seeking the truth can be counterproductive to getting things done intrigued me, so I listened to her TED talk to discover her alternative. She recommends that:
That sounds reasonable for those occasions when we have to make collective decisions. Perhaps we can’t agree on a total reform package for, say, the healthcare or immigration systems, so we focus on the things on which we can agree and make incremental changes.
Her example of the lack of action on global warming, though, is unfortunate for her case. In effect, her idea is little more than a plea to stop arguing and “do something.” But most of the somethings that governments around the world have done have made the problem worse: by discouraging the switch to nuclear power and natural gas, by mandating the use of biofuels and biomass, by subsidizing intermittent energy sources such as solar and wind, by restricting pipeline construction in favor of less efficient truck and rail transportation, and by restricting mining operations in advanced nations and pushing them to far less efficient and more polluting countries. In short, the West’s climate change “solutions” have tended to increase CO2 production.
Ignoring the truth can help get “something” done, but only by seeking the truth can we hope to identify those few somethings that will make situations better and not worse.
That said, Maher does have some recommendations that I think are useful. For example, she suggests that constructive engagement requires:
Today, unfortunately, people on both the left and the right routinely disparage both. They’re tired of debate; they want action. Like Maher, they want someone to “do something.”
Maher also argues for getting all voices into the room. Fair enough, but “all” to Maher doesn’t seem to include people who disagree with NPR’s disregard for the truth.
steve
Apr 25 2024 at 10:29pm
US per capita CO2 emissions. (EU looks about the same.)
https://ourworldindata.org/co2/country/united-states
Steve
Richard W. Fulmer
Apr 26 2024 at 4:23am
How much of that decline was due to the shift from coal to natural gas (which Obama fought and for which he later took credit), how much was due to the COVID shutdowns, how much was due to increased efficiencies that would have happened anyway, and how much was due to “emit more elsewhere” policies that simply shift CO2 production from the West to developing nations?
Kevin Corcoran
Apr 26 2024 at 7:47am
Hi Steve –
While the data you link to is definitely good news and illustrates what Our World in Data called “The Great Decoupling” (showing economic growth and CO2 emissions moving in opposite directions), it doesn’t actually contradict what Richard is claiming. Richard’s claim isn’t that C02 emissions have reached the highest levels ever, or the highest levels per capita ever – his claim is that specific mandates and laws put forth by the government result in higher emissions than otherwise. That’s perfectly compatible with overall emissions lowering over time.
As a parallel case, consider claims about the effect of laws and regulations restricting the building of new housing units. Such laws and regulations mean the number of available housing units and dwellings will be lower than otherwise, almost by definition. Now, if I say “due to various laws passed by the government we have fewer houses,” someone might think they can show that claim to be false by pointing out that we actually have more housing per capita in the US than ever! This is true, (although it doesn’t imply what many think it does regarding a shortage of housing), but it also doesn’t contradict the claim. It can both be the case that we have more housing per capita than ever before, and that laws and regulations result in fewer homes being built. Similarly, it can be true that CO2 emissions per capita are lowering, and be the case that various laws and regulations increase rather than decrease the amount of CO2 emitted.
(Of note, I’m not here making a claim than in the absence of such laws, Co2 emissions would be lower than they currently are – I don’t know well enough to say offhand. My point is simply that the graph you point to is irrelevant as counterevidence to the claim that was made.)
steve
Apr 26 2024 at 11:54pm
This data is pretty easily available. Since 1990 coal has gone from providing about 55% to 19% of our electricity, Natural gas 10% to 42% and solar/wind 0% to 15%. Clearly renewables are having an impact.
Autos had an average of about 21 mpg for new cars in 1990 and now are at about 26-28 mpg depending upon whose claim you believe.
So our policies have not caused CO2 emissions to increase in total and individual solutions advocated by the West have clearly contributed to lower CO2. Feel free to offer data to substantiate your claims.
https://www.eia.gov/environment/emissions/carbon/
Steve
Richard W Fulmer
Apr 27 2024 at 3:57pm
Markets drove the shift from coal to natural gas. Government CAFE requirements led the change in consumer preference from sedans to SUVs.
Even left-leaning journals such as The Guardian have admitted that corn-based ethanol mandates and Britain’s biomass power plants do more harm than good:
Corn biofuels worse than gasoline on global warming in short term – study | Biofuels | The Guardian
The dirty little secret behind ‘clean energy’ wood pellets | Biomass and bioenergy | The Guardian
While solar panels and (especially) wind turbines have significantly smaller carbon footprints than do natural gas power plants, they currently rely largely on such conventional plants for backup.
The federal government and several state governments have killed pipeline projects, which means that petroleum products end up being transported by less efficient and more carbon intensive truck and rail.
We still don’t know whether electric vehicles are a net plus or minus. We do know that they require mining a lot more metals such as lithium and cobalt, which requires moving millions of tons of earth. In addition, a 2022 study indicates that EVs may be more polluting that gas-powered vehicles.
As Dr. Corcoran pointed out, correlation does not prove causation. Carbon emissions have gone down, but they’ve gone down in spite of many government policies.
A serious problem with government programs is that they’re all but impossible to change. Even though we now know that ethanol mandates make the problem worse, we can’t kill them because the program has created powerful constituencies. As Kevin D. Williamson once observed, when government does stupid, it does immortally stupid.
The point of Dr. Corcoran’s post is well taken – we should first seek to uncover the truth before acting. And that especially applies to imposing nationwide or worldwide programs that may make the problem worse and that are politically difficult or impossible to end.
john hare
Apr 25 2024 at 5:42pm
I never went to a church with my parents. In my late teens I was looking for answers that churches should have been able to provide. I tried several before deciding they didn’t have the answers I needed. When someone is asking you to take on faith beliefs that are clearly flawed*, it’s time to move on.
Unfortunately, I see similar attitudes on too many subjects.
*Several direct quotes.
“There’s only one church that is right and everybody else is going to hell”.
“Everything started a few thousand years ago and evolution is a wrong and evil plot by the devil”.
“All answers are in the bible and anything that contradicts is is evil and wrong”.
Ahmed Fares
Apr 26 2024 at 1:48am
When the student is ready,
the teacher appears.
He may be across an ocean,
he may already be in the house.
john hare
Apr 26 2024 at 4:48am
I have learned from many different types. I have learned to not allow any one type to dictate my reasoning either friend or adversary. I also pick up on ideas from both. Being aware that I may be in error and willing to learn is critical. That does not mean taking the word of others as unchallengeable gospel.
Shorthand is, I know I don’t have all the answers, but that doesn’t compel me to take your answers on faith, that being your faith.
Ahmed Fares
Apr 26 2024 at 2:56am
My favorite story about Newton.
The brachistochrone problem
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