Over at our sister publication Law & Liberty, political science professor James R. Rogers has a piece titled “The Harder Question Tucker Carlson Raises for Conservatives.” If it were a question Carlson raises only for conservatives, I would be less interested than otherwise. But Professor Rogers makes clear in the article that Carlson raises this question for libertarians too.
I grant, as you’ll see soon, that Carlson does raise a good question and that Rogers does an excellent job of homing in on it. The problem, as you will also soon see, is that there is no good answer.
Here’s the kernel of value that Rogers extracts from Carlson’s monologue:
Conservatives have long recognized the existence of rent-seeking and crony capitalism. Carlson criticized a legal regime that, he suggested, allows companies to repudiate earned pension commitments, adopts tax systems that discriminate in favor of capital owners and against labor, supports government activity “to make the world safe for banking” and the creation of a “finance-based economy.” We can argue about how Carlson styled each of these policy issues, but none is obviously required by free-market commitments. All can plausibly be accounted for as outcomes of rent-seeking, which is the antithesis of a free market economy rather than its exemplar.
And at that, Carlson only scratched the surface of ways that America’s current economic system fails the free market test. Do we believe state and national regulatory regimes are neutral with respect to the interests of large capital interests? Even if they are, might even a “neutral” regulatory regime deter free market entry? For example, might the cost of complying with otherwise neutral regulatory requirements impose costs that deter market entry for new firms? Let’s say the cost of paperwork for regulatory compliance in a market is $100,000 a year. That’s a drop in the bucket to large, already-existing businesses. But those costs can deter the entry of new, small businesses; businesses that without the compliance expense might otherwise start, grow and compete with existing businesses.
I have more than a quibble with part of the second sentence in the first paragraph I quoted. The U.S. government has not adopted “tax systems that discriminate in favor of capital owners and against labor.” In fact, the U.S. government has a tax system that discriminates against capital owners, as any public finance economist, including Joe Stiglitz in his excellent public finance text, can tell you. The recent corporate tax cut simply reduced the discrimination against capital while keeping the principle of discrimination intact. (I don’t want to get sidetracked here, but if you’re wondering about it, notice this: When a corporation makes money, it gets taxed on corporate profits. Then when it distributes some of those earnings as dividends, owners of capital get taxed yet again. Then if they sell their assets, they get taxed on capital gains. It’s triple taxation.)
But Rogers nails it in the second paragraph. I’ve written before about economies of scale in regulatory compliance. It’s a real thing. It was large part of my 1976 Ph.D. dissertation and I’ve posted about it here.
That’s not the end of it. Rogers points to a tougher issue:
The tougher issue is the substantive implications for conservatives and libertarians if one were to grant that rent seeking and crony capitalism have been endemic throughout large parts of the American economy. The problem is this: Simply repealing rent-seeking policies would not necessarily reestablish the status quo ante of a free market system: One could believe businesses with real market power would never have arisen initially in a free market system while at the same time believing that capital accumulation that occurred in the past as a result of rent seeking would not be eliminated simply by repealing rent seeking policies and allowing markets to continue without further intervention from that point. The distribution of capital is different in economic systems that never accommodated rent seeking in the first place relative to economic systems that accommodated rent seeking but then, after allowing rents to be accumulated, eliminated the rent-seeking policy infrastructure.
That’s a really good point. But what do you do about it? Here’s how Rogers ends:
If, however, one believes the ills Carlson identifies result mainly from abuse of government power by capital owners (and others), it is nonetheless little more than utopian fancy to think merely repealing rent-seeking policies would reestablish the status quo ante as if privileged abuse of power in favor of capital never existed at all.
Justice might require implementation of policies to rectify the earlier injustices. Such rectifying interventions would be required by conservative or libertarian free-market principles rather than opposed by them. The implications of that possibility is [sic] a road much less traveled on the political right. (italics in original)
Notice the “and others.” Some of the others I immediately think of are union workers who gained from monopolizing the labor force, and capital owners and laborers who gained from restricting trade. How do you rectify those injustices, which is what Rogers “might” want?
Here’s the unfortunate answer: you can’t. Put aside the fact that rectifying those injustices might involve what seem to most of us to be pretty nasty solutions: garnishing wages of union members, imposing a special tax on General Motors because it gained from tariffs on trucks, and imposing heavy taxes on elderly people who paid little into Social Security and Medicare but got a huge amount out, to name three. In my view, those solutions are so nasty and so messy that we should not pursue them.
But here’s the other problem: Virtually all of those measures that were part of cronyism had deadweight losses. Deadweight losses are losses to some that are gains to no one. The gains to General Motors and its unions from tariffs were less than the costs to consumers; the losses to companies, excluded workers, and consumers due to union monopoly power exceeded the gain to union members; and the gains to elderly people from windfalls due to Social Security and Medicare were less than the losses to the young and middle-aged.
What that means is that even if you were willing to undertake the solutions that I have described as nasty, you can’t.
Professor Rogers has raised a good question, whether or not that is the question that Tucker Carlson raised.
Unfortunately, there is no good answer.
READER COMMENTS
James Hanley
Jan 23 2019 at 12:48pm
My best guess is that you have to treat the past as a sunk cost and just choose the expected best among possible futures.
Philo
Jan 23 2019 at 12:51pm
The best answer is, by definition, a “good” answer, and the best answer here, after correcting the system to eliminate ongoing injustice, is not to attempt recompensation: let bygones be bygones.
David Henderson
Jan 23 2019 at 1:46pm
James Hanley and Philo,
In a rare moment of unanimity, I agree with you both.
robc
Jan 23 2019 at 3:31pm
Mises made a similar point in Socialism.
Paraphrasing: all property was acquired by theft and etc, but at some point you have to draw the line and say that from here forward we have properly protected property rights.
RPLong
Jan 24 2019 at 8:52am
Thanks, robc. I spent a good amount of time hunting down the relevant quote, but I couldn’t find it. And no wonder: I looked in Liberalism and Human Action, but not Socialism.
Here it is:
Socialism, pp. 42-43.
Kevin Dick
Jan 23 2019 at 2:00pm
I would note that this article also reveals a tough question for Progressives. How come the answer to so many imperfections in societal outcomes eventually seems to come down to either taking something from somebody or increasing the micromanagement of peaceful interactions? Even imperfections created by past takings and micromanagement!
Bill
Jan 23 2019 at 2:49pm
Any attempt to claw back gains created by privilege seeking should be cognizant of Gordon Tullock’s insights in his “Transitional Gains Trap.”
Jairaj Devadiga
Jan 23 2019 at 4:25pm
What that means is that even if you were willing to undertake the solutions that I have described as nasty, you can’t.
Do you by any chance mean that you “shouldn’t”? I don’t see why we can’t impose a special tax on General Motors even though there are deadweight losses.
Rogers is arguing from a moral point of view, when he says “justice” requires these actions, while efficiency is an amoral economic concept. Trying to mix the two leads to messy arguments.
But this is just a minor gripe.
There is another problem I see with kind of solutions Rogers is hinting at, which is the assignment problem. Suppose we impose a special tax on General Motors in order to correct past injustices.
But the shareholders of GM have not remained the same all these years. The ones who caused the injustices might have sold off their shares, or passed them on to their heirs. Penalising them for mistakes of other people would be unjust.
David Henderson
Jan 23 2019 at 6:48pm
You wrote:
What that means is that even if you were willing to undertake the solutions that I have described as nasty, you can’t.
Do you by any chance mean that you “shouldn’t”? I don’t see why we can’t impose a special tax on General Motors even though there are deadweight losses.
Definitely you shouldn’t. But also, if you go back far enough, you can’t. The amount of loss, which includes DWL, caused by bad government over the last 200 years almost certainly exceeds the amount of wealth in America today.
You wrote:
But the shareholders of GM have not remained the same all these years. The ones who caused the injustices might have sold off their shares, or passed them on to their heirs. Penalising them for mistakes of other people would be unjust.
Very good point. And it also runs into Tullock’s transitional gains trap that Bill mentions above.
Zeke5123
Jan 23 2019 at 8:40pm
I would also raise the point — ignoring deadweight loss — that government largesse is not unidirectional. That is, government almost always provides cross subsidies. Figuring out net subsidy winners compared to losers in a single generation would to my mind be a fool’s errand
Figuring these out since time immemorial at each generational level is impossible — stopping at any particular point would be arbitrary and offend justice.
Sowell wrote a book called cosmic justice. The difference between justice and cosmic justice is that justice is capable of being fairly adjudicated; cosmic justice, for the reasons articulated above, is impossible to be fairly adjudicated (at least by humans).
Therefore, the only reasonable position is to drop demands for cosmic justice but try to minimize the need for further cosmic justice (ie be just today). Stated differently, when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.
Matthias Goergens
Jan 24 2019 at 2:00am
Yes, it’s better to talk about discrimination in favour of certain powerful insiders, instead of labour vs capital.
Oh, and don’t forget land holders! Make them pay the taxes, if you don’t like deadweight losses.
Weir
Jan 24 2019 at 4:28am
Given that reparations from baby boomers to millennials is a non-starter, you could renounce the whole corrupt system entirely and live like Alex Honnold in Free Solo, dirtbagging, making do with only those possessions you can fit in a van. The state will still look at all prime age males (as they are known) as a resource to be mined for an income. But a human being doesn’t have to accept that fate.
Rob Weir
Jan 24 2019 at 10:20am
Here are the 30 Dow Jones Industrial companies from 1959:
Allied Chemical and Dye Corporation
General Electric Company
Sears Roebuck & Company
Aluminum Company of America
General Foods Corporation
Standard Oil Co. of California
American Can Company
General Motors Corporation
Standard Oil Co. of New Jersey
American Telephone and Telegraph Company
Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company
Swift & Company
American Tobacco Company
The Texas Company
Anaconda Copper Mining Company
International Nickel Company, Ltd.
Union Carbide Corporation
Bethlehem Steel Corporation
International Paper Company
United Aircraft Corporation
Chrysler Corporation
Johns-Manville Corporation
United States Steel Corporation
E.I. du Pont de Nemours & Company
Owens-Illinois, Inc.
Westinghouse Electric Corporation
Eastman Kodak Company
The Procter & Gamble Company
F. W. Woolworth Company
If, for sake of argument, these companies benefited from crony capitalism back then, what exactly would it have looked like to “reestablish the status quo ante”? Give compensation to buggy whip manufacturers?
Given that government is not very good at picking winners, I suspect it would not be very good at picking the right losers, either. It would be a political decision, and cronyism would tend to reassert itself.
But if future industrial turnover occurs at anything like the rate it has in the past, then I wonder whether government really needs to do much more than “get out of the way”? In a generation or less you end up with a clean slate.
artifex
Jan 24 2019 at 11:30am
This is wrong. The earnings distributed as dividends are separate from the earnings kept as capital gains, so this is only double taxation, not triple.
That said, if the capital owners reinvest the dividends, they can get triple taxation. If they reinvest them again, they get quadruple taxation, quintuple taxation, sextuple taxation, and so on. A great system, isn’t this.
Robert EV
Jan 26 2019 at 11:29am
Double, triple, etc… taxation.
It’s the same for private citizens too.
They get taxed on their income, pay sales tax to buy an item, and then are supposed to pay capital gains tax if they sell it for a gross profit in a garage sale years later. And that’s not even counting ongoing sales taxes for any repairs the item requires over the years.
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