Scott Alexander recently pointed to the appalling record of the left-leaning media on economic policy:
Venezuela is collapsing, with the New York Times describing it as “uncharted territory” for a semi-developed country to be so deep in economic disaster that its hospitals, schools, power plants, and basic services are simply shutting down. So it’s a good time to reflect on the media’s previous glowing Venezuela stories. In 2013, Salon praised “Hugo Chavez’ Economic Miracle, saying that “[Chavez’s] full-throated advocacy of socialism and redistributionism at once represented a fundamental critique of neoliberal economics, and also delivered some indisputably positive results” (h/t Ciphergoth). And the Guardian wrote that “Sorry, Venezuela Haters: This Economy Is Not The Greece Of Latin America. Prediction is hard, and I was willing to forgive eg the pundits who were wrong about the Trump nomination. But I am less willing to forgive here, because the thesis of these articles wasn’t just that they were right, but that the only reason everyone else didn’t admit they were right was neoliberalism and bad intentions. Psychologizing other people instead of arguing with them should take a really high burden of proof, and Salon and Guardian didn’t meet it. Muggeridge, thou should be living at this hour…
That got me thinking about Greece. I wondered how the left had explained away the abysmal failure of statism in Greece. Back in 2008, when I did research on neoliberalism in developing countries, I found that Greece was the least neoliberal economy in the developed world, according to a variety of metrics. Note that at this time Greece was booming, so this was not a question of people who liked neoliberalism calling Greece statist just because they wanted to peg that tag on a failed system. Indeed I was surprised that Greece did so well until 2008, despite being so amazingly un-neoliberal.
Of course we all know what happened next. The world discovered that the Greek boom was funded by unsustainable foreign borrowing, and that the Greek government lied about how much they had borrowed. When the huge debts were exposed, Greece had to sharply curtail its borrowing. Even worse, the eurozone crisis pushed Greek into recession. Greece is now widely seen as the worst economy in the developed world, with major structural problems.
So I wondered how the left would explain the failure of statism in Greece, and decided to google “Greece crisis neoliberalism” expecting to find lots of articles about how Greece needed to move in a more neoliberal direction, like the northern European economies, in order to recover from its statist nightmare. What I found was the exact opposite:
Here’s the link, as lack of space caused me to cut off the right margin.
Notice that we see the usual suspects, The Guardian and Salon. Indeed all of the links on the first Google page talk about Greece from an anti-neoliberal perspective.
To be clear, there are many countries that are a mix of free markets and statism, and hence there can be honest differences as to which characteristics are the most salient. But at the extremes, reasonable people should not disagree. There is no plausible argument that Hong Kong’s success is in any way a success story for statism, and there is no plausible argument that Greece’s failure has anything to do with neoliberalism. To suggest otherwise is to engage in The Big Lie. So what does this mean?
1. The neoliberal consensus of the 1990s is gone. Much of the left wing media has returned to its socialist roots.
2. The term ‘neoliberalism’ is now completely detached from any actual characteristics of an economic policy regime, and is just a sort of free floating insult tossed around by the left, attached to anything they don’t like about the world. Perhaps they don’t even realize that they are lying.
3. The left has split. Some of the moderates still reject socialism, and were critical of Bernie Sander’s unrealistic proposals. However the fastest growth is occurring on the far left fringes, where the policies of Sanders, Corbyn and Chavez are defended.
4. There is a similar split on the right, with the more extreme supply-siders and gold bugs being out of touch with the mainstream. However no one on the right, AFAIK, supports policies as destructive as what occurred on Venezuela. On the right, the worst policy mistakes are typically associated with growing nationalism and racism, not dysfunctional economics.
READER COMMENTS
Richard O. Hammer
Jun 11 2016 at 3:55pm
Different people have different worldviews, which leads them to report observing different facts when they survey a situation. For example:
Given my out-of-the-closet bias in selecting my reading, I believe I saw the word “neoliberal” for the first time only about six months ago. It feels to me like a sneer coming from the left. But you Scott, with your different viewpoint, evidently have been aware of that term for a long time.
Try this Google search, using “over-regulation” in place of “neoliberal”. Use the language of good people 🙂
I sometimes think of a real landscape to clarify different worldviews. Imagine looking over a valley from a hilltop north of the valley. Then imagine looking from a hilltop west of the valley. Different facts will be reported from the two different viewpoints. A fact prominent in one view may be hidden in the other view, obscured by some other feature. There is a parallel, I maintain, when people with different histories or needs overlook a human situation. We may believe they are observing the same situation, but they will report seeing different facts.
Harold Cockerill
Jun 11 2016 at 7:04pm
It seems there are an awful lot of people angry that in order to consume one must produce. I believe the same group is angry that one cannot live on borrowed money ad infinitum.
It’s hard to believe that life is so unfair.
Glen
Jun 11 2016 at 7:40pm
Writing recently at The Week, Noah Millman captured not only the essential truth of Donald Trump but also an essential truth about many so-called ordinary people in modern liberal societies:
Whether or not this dissociation is a necessary (and self-protecting) feature of vibrant and competitive markets or simply malignant narcissism is the issue that has always separated individualists from egalitarians (collectivist authoritarians, too). Accepting responsibility for one’s own failures is pretty much the foundation for all Western liberal thought, from the development of Christianity through The Enlightenment. It should not surprise anyone that as these values become rarer, we move closer to neofeudalism.
Benjamin Cole
Jun 11 2016 at 7:46pm
On the right, the worst policy mistakes are typically associated with growing nationalism and racism, not dysfunctional economics.–Sumner.
I agree with this post.
Not sure about the last paragraph, at least for the USA. The economics of the American right is shot through with hypocrisy. Right-wing commentators will forever rant about the minimum wage but become mute when the topic is property zoning or ethanol subsidies. And who cares about push-cart vending? But Uber and Lyft! Uber and Lyft!
Any true classic economist will tell you that national security spending, in economic terms, is parasitic. This observation is verboten on the American right. To mention the F-35, a Trumpian-scale boondoggle, means you are liberal.
Rural subsidies are extensive and pervasive but not a topic.
Sheesh, we are against social engineering and for the home mortgage interest tax deduction.
The only way to take care of former employees of the federal government who wore uniform is through the Communist Health Care program known as the VA, in which federal employee doctors and nurses in federally owned facilities provide care to former federal employees.
Greece was an example of socialism married to a third-world quality tax collection system. I prefer free markets and minimum but strictly collected taxes.
But the worst sins of the American Right are also economic. Ronald Reagan’s 600- ship Navy was neither necessary nor cheap, and Bush’s Wars in Iraqistan will set us back about $7 trillion.
The American Right?
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TMC
Jun 11 2016 at 9:39pm
Benjamin, there are sure a lot of misconceptions there. I doubt you get half right.
Conservatives are not against ethanol subsidies?
You sure have a list of strawmen.
You are right on the home mortgage though.
“Any true classic economist will tell you that national security spending, in economic terms, is parasitic.” But obviously necessary if you choose to live on earth.
And the Iraq war price tag seems to go up a trillion every year. Price was 1 Trillion at the time of when it ended.
Jose Romeu Robazzi
Jun 12 2016 at 1:03am
Nowadays I start any discussion with left wingers with the question: “what about Venezuela?”. That, in fact, makes all these conversations very short …
Julien Couvreur
Jun 12 2016 at 3:23am
Seeing that neoliberalism is a slur, your search is biased to find anti-free-market articles.
Anonymous
Jun 12 2016 at 5:43am
Seconding Julien. Actually, I think that ‘neo-‘ is just a negative-sounding prefix in general. For example, ‘neocon’ seems to be used mainly as an insult, not a neutral descriptor.
Richard O. Hammer
Jun 12 2016 at 8:51am
On rereading, I now see that Scott was intending to find publications from the left, to see what their media were saying. So my first comment was off target in one respect.
But I have more to add in a different direction. In my analysis of social life, the Resource-Patterns Model of Life, a behavior pattern which I call “stereotype and dismiss” will be described in an upcoming chapter on public psychology. We economize decision-making in some circumstances by stereotyping and dismissing an object of frustration.
If you are dealing with an unruly animal, whether a cow or a political opposite, it makes sense to try persuasion and negotiation up to a point. Beyond that point it becomes practical to use other means: resort to force, find a different approach, or give up the project.
In any case, when a person is transitioning from a stance employing persuasion to a stance without any effort at persuasion, it makes sense, in order to maintain a consistent worldview, to internally categorize the recalcitrant object as unreasonable, as bad and unworthy of persuasive effort; it makes sense to stereotype the recalcitrant object.
Pundits of the left are herders in this sense. When persuasion fails they must find other means to their ends, stereotyping and dismissing along the way as need be.
Life in levels is another relevant aspect of the Resource-Patterns Model. In view of life-in-levels, all members of the left in a given polity can be seen as a single attempt to form one larger organization, life on an advanced RPM level. Leftist media comprise the mind in which this prototype organization does its stereotyping and dismissing.
Market Fiscalist
Jun 12 2016 at 10:17am
“no one on the right, AFAIK, supports policies as destructive as what occurred on Venezuela”
While undoubtedly it it true that bad Greek governance led to its debt crisis , it is also true that bad EU policy led to way deeper austerity than was actually required by the situation. Had Greece not been part of the Euro , and had it followed sensible monetary and fiscal policies since 2008 it seems very likely it would be in much netter shape today. Had it stayed in the EU and both he EU and US had followed NGDLT since 2008, it likewise would have recovered by now.
So, it maybe unfair to call it a failure of”neo-liberalism” , but you can hardly blame the left for pointing out that Greece actually has been a victim of bad economic management by the people responsible for monetary policy in the two largest capitalist blocs on the planet – and it really is not that much of a stretch to assume group-interest rather than incompetence as the cause of that
Hazel Meade
Jun 12 2016 at 11:04am
Venezuela is collapsing, with the New York Times describing it as “uncharted territory” for a semi-developed country to be so deep in economic disaster that its hospitals, schools, power plants, and basic services are simply shutting down.
How exactly is this territory “uncharted”? It seems to me that this road has been traveled many times before, with pretty much the same results.
Hazel Meade
Jun 12 2016 at 11:07am
Different people have different worldviews, which leads them to report observing different facts when they survey a situation.
It strikes me that there are no leftists who in my experience would reciprocate such a good faith consideration of you point of view.
We bend over backwards to fairly characterize their views as well intentioned, while they instant attribute ours to malice and malevolence.
Tom West
Jun 12 2016 at 1:03pm
As someone who visits both sides of the left/right Internet, I’d say that attributing to malice is more common on the left, but is by no means absent on the right.
As for whether the right-wing fringe is more destructive, you can always beg the question by simply excluding whichever fringe you like as “not really” left or right wing.
Certainly there are quite a number of people who feel that Trump is in someways the embarrassing platonic ideal of the mainstream right wing (as opposed to the right wing elite). Sanders may play that role to the left.
Personally, the idea of putting Libertarianism in either ring seems ridiculous. The idea of “freedom” being more important that any number of other things is ludicrous to both the mainstream left and the right. More correctly, I’d say Libertarianism is *tolerated* by the right-wing elites for its connections with certain moneyed interests. It’s much the same for the left-wing elites toleration for the socialist wing because it brings much needed engaged manpower.
Scott Sumner
Jun 12 2016 at 1:56pm
Market, The exact same monetary policy applied to Germany.
Market Fiscalist
Jun 12 2016 at 3:10pm
‘ The exact same monetary policy applied to Germany.’
But that policy was probably appropriate for Germany. It was not appropriate for Greece. I bet this is reflected in NGDP growth for the 2 countries for the past decade.
Shane L
Jun 13 2016 at 7:15am
“Back in 2008, when I did research on neoliberalism in developing countries, I found that Greece was the least neoliberal economy in the developed world, according to a variety of metrics. Note that at this time Greece was booming, so this was not a question of people who liked neoliberalism calling Greece statist just because they wanted to peg that tag on a failed system. Indeed I was surprised that Greece did so well until 2008, despite being so amazingly un-neoliberal.”
I’m curious to see that Ireland are highly ranked in each of the free market rankings there too. In 2008 Ireland was on the very edge of a severe recession. The left here have made some progress in identifying 2000s Ireland as a free market poster boy, implying that free markets failed and thrust the country into economic calamity.
Either way, it is interesting that countries at the very top and very bottom of your list had some very nasty years of economic decline ahead of them in 2008.
Alexander Hamilton
Jun 13 2016 at 12:48pm
Market, Way deeper austerity than was actually required? How do you work that out? If it hadn’t been for the bailout Greece would have been forced to balance it’s budget overnight.
Garrett M
Jun 16 2016 at 7:24pm
Sumner said:
You may be interested to know that MSCI the leader in international equity indexes, recategorized Greece as an Emerging Market in 2013. Lots of investors use these indexes as a way to view the world.
Garrett M. Petersen
Jun 22 2016 at 10:30am
I actually have seen leftists claim that Hong Kong’s prosperity was caused by whatever trivial amount of regulation they have. I kid you not.
[N.B. The commenter Garrett M. Petersen says he is not the same person as Garrett M, who coincidentally posted above with a similar nick in this thread.–Econlib Ed.]
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