
The Self-Interest Voter Hypothesis, or SIVH, claims that individuals’ political views are closely based on their objective self-interest. Despite its popularity, the evidence is strongly against it. If the SIVH were true, for example, income would be an excellent predictor of party identification. In reality, the correlation between the two is near-zero. People don’t vote for the party that gives them a better balance sheet; they vote for the party that speaks to their ideals.
Still, you may ask, what happens if the stakes are life and death? The whole COVID debacle provides an elegant illustration. If people’s views on COVID were largely based on objective self-interest, we would see the following patterns.
1. Support for strict COVID policies would be near-zero for the young, then rise very rapidly with age, because the risk of death roughly triples as your age rises by a decade. The inconvenience of policy, in contrast, varies little by age.
2. People with underlying conditions would be vastly more supportive of strict policies, because risk is again sharply higher for such people. Indeed, support by people with no such conditions would be very low, because such people make up less than 10% of the victims even though they are a majority of the population.
3. Males, blacks, and Hispanics would be modestly more supportive of strict COVID policies, because their risks are modestly higher.
4. Yes, you can tweak the SIVH so people care about the well-being of their families. But again, this implies that people who happen to have many high-risk family members would be much more supportive of strict measures than loners.
5. Support Human Challenge Trials would be virtually unanimous. Why? Because human experimentation would dramatically improve the quality of prevention policy and speed the arrival of safe, effective vaccines. No one would worry about the risk to the participants, except the participants themselves: “If you’re worried, don’t volunteer. End of story.”
On reflection, support for these SIVH predictions is weak at best. While demographic breakdowns of public opinion on COVID policy are strangely scarce, Democrats clearly favor stricter policies than Republicans. But it is Republicans who receive markedly more support from the elderly. Since COVID risk increases very rapidly with age, this is a shocking result. Other demographic patterns are mixed: Males, blacks and Hispanics are all higher-risk, but males are more Republican while blacks and Hispanics are more Democratic. It’s hard to tell if people with underlying conditions or high-risk relatives has any effect on desired COVID policies, but remember: If the SIVH were right, these effects would be too big to miss.
Most strikingly, other than a few economists, statisticians, Effective Altruists, and other exemplars of numeracy, virtually no one supports Human Challenge Trials! Why not? Because almost everyone is morally horrified by the very idea. Rationally speaking, the underlying moral principle is hard to fathom: Why shouldn’t you let a thousand heroes voluntarily take a minor risk to their own lives to save the lives of hundreds of thousands of strangers? Is low-risk heroism somehow villainous? But the public’s moral confusion is small comfort to the politician who goes against the public’s atavism.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I would much rather live in a world of rational, selfish voters. Yes, such people can be callous. They would be deaf to the grand arguments of The Problem of Political Authority. Yet they would favor much better policies than the irrational, unselfish voters whose dominate actual polities. Unselfishness may lead you to “Do your part.” What good is “doing your part,” though, if you refuse to think straight about what to do?
READER COMMENTS
BC
Mar 8 2021 at 10:46am
“I would much rather live in a world of rational, selfish voters.”
Wouldn’t that lead to unbearable dominance by special interest groups, even more so than now? Don’t selfish, rational voters focus exclusively on seeking concentrated benefits by dispersing costs on the general population?
Here is a version of SIVH that might fit: those that belong to elite, policy-influencing classes — media, academics, public health officials — favor government-mandated policies as they hold the most influence over government. Policies can either be restrictive (close businesses) or non-restrictive (don’t close borders if seen as xenophobic). Masks can be mandated or prohibited (to reserve for health care workers) as can vaccines (prohibited before FDA approval, mandated after). The important part is that government decides, preferably by non-elected “experts” insulated from public opinion as much as possible. (Ideal would be if the public had no idea how nor who was setting policy.) Those that do not fall into those policy-influencing classes reflexively oppose the mandates and prohibitions, sometimes even when the underlying behavior, e.g., wearing a mask or taking a vaccine, would have merit if not mandatory. Admittedly, even the non policy-influencing classes seem much more likely to oppose mandates and prohibitions on themselves than on firms that they do business with. For example, they don’t seem to mind vaccine prohibitions as long as they are framed as prohibitions on vaccine makers rather than vaccine takers. That part is admittedly irrational.
Mark
Mar 9 2021 at 5:56pm
Another problem with democracy is that voters might approve extreme concentrated costs on politically powerless minorities in exchange for even tiny benefits for voters. For example, immigration laws that totally upturn the lives of would-be immigrants and their US sponsors in exchange for reducing the annoyance some natives feel at cultural change. There’s no reason to think that concentrated benefits/diffuse costs is worse than concentrated costs/diffuse benefits.
Also, what is a non-restrictive government mandate? That seems to be a contradiction in terms. Whether you agree with the merits or not, not closing borders is the opposite of a government mandate. The government wasn’t forcing anyone to travel.
zeke5123
Mar 8 2021 at 10:54am
Are we sure that the elderly would favor stricter COVID lockdown? If their goal was simply increasing the number of days left, perhaps (and only perhaps because COVID lockdown may or may not have that impact).
But if you only have a few years left to live, maybe spending time with your kids and grandkids is more important to you than living an extra 100 days or even an extra 1,000 days.
Indeed, for some, the lockdown may prevent them from ever seeing the people that matter most to them in person ever again.
I could understand how the elderly may support making things easier for the elderly to reduce the need to travel outside of the home, it isn’t obvious to me that they support lockdown.
robc
Mar 8 2021 at 1:18pm
About 6 months back, at a nursing home protest, one of the elderly had a “I would rather die of COVID than loneliness” sign. That goes with what you said.
Ryan McPherson
Mar 9 2021 at 2:04pm
This is very true. But it doesn’t just go for the elderly.
Take the example of masks. I have said to people that masks almost literally make me crazy. I realize that I communicate very much through facial expression and by reading the faces of others. I smile a lot, I grin when I use sarcasm, etc… Sometimes I just walk through a crowd silently, but observing people’s faces.
When people wear masks – for me, this creates an intense sensation of loneliness. You are surrounded by people, but you are in the company of nobody. This cannot be unique to me – we are currently putting masks on the faces of children in schools, for whom socialization is one of the most important aspects of their education.
Personally, I would prefer to deal with a covid infection rather than live in a masked society.
Those trade-offs exist everywhere. We could greatly reduce illness if we never gathered in groups, if we cancelled all sports, if we closed all schools and churches… just as we could end deaths by automobile accident if we banned vehicles. But we don’t do these things, because the existence of life is very different from the quality of life, and many things that increase quality also increase risk, which we gladly accept.
The problem is that people have – for nearly an entire year! – considered only one risk at the expense of all other risks, and at the expense of all the trade-offs that must occur when they seek to mitigate that risk. Only now are we starting to see something of a domino effect as the threat is less likely to terrify people, and as the previously-ignored trade-offs have taken their toll for many months.
The elderly seem somewhat less inclined to make this sort of error, as they have lived through many risks, and as they tend to think more about “what’s important” toward the latter part of their lives.
Daniel Kling
Mar 8 2021 at 11:08am
There are some claims of questionable accuracy here.
From Bryan:
From real data written up at https://reason.com/volokh/2020/10/14/public-opinion-supports-covid-vaccine-challenge-trials/:
Further, anecdotally, I see/hear relatively liberal folks being at least challenge-trials-curious in articles and podcasts. Maybe these are all hyper-numerate weirdos like us, but I can’t really recall reading anyone advocate against challenge trials (although to be fair, I don’t generally follow/interact with the antivax crowd).
Introspection can be great! But it’s generally helpful to avoid believing in narratives because they “feel true.”
Dylan
Mar 8 2021 at 7:09pm
To me, the best arguments against challenge trials is that, in the world we live in, they are unlikely to be faster than normal trials, and could even be slower. And, that the types of participants it is ethically OK to enroll in the trial are not the ones that are most at risk of getting hospitalized or dying…which naturally limits the amount of knowledge you gain from running the trials.
I’m not 100% sold on these objections but, given that most of the time they come from the people that would be in charge of running such trials, it is hard to discount them completely either.
Here’s one blog post that covers a few of these issues.
Tyler Wells
Mar 8 2021 at 11:46am
“The inconvenience of policy, in contrast, varies little by age.” This is hugely not true, the young and the poor are much more inconvenienced. Primarily, their opportunity cost for staying home is much greater. One of my pet peeves is Boomers clucking “this stay at home thing isn’t so bad” not at all thinking (caring?) that not everyone has as nice of a home situation as they do.
As a test, look at opinion poles on Dr. Fauci. I would think that he is very well respected in the over-60 crowd, very disliked by parents of young children, and ignored by those even younger.
Daniel Kling
Mar 8 2021 at 1:17pm
Such polls definitely exist! You can very likely find the cross tabs on some of them to check your hypothesis. Based on literally every other poll I’ve seen cross tabs for, I would guess that you are 1/3rd correct.
The over 60’s and parents probably like him in rough correspondence to their party: 70-80% approval among Democrats, 30-40% approval among Republicans regardless of age. I think Democrats are a little younger than Republicans on average, so that might get you something that looks like an age difference, but the opposite of your prediction, and not really because of the age. I suspect you are right on with “ignored by those even younger,” though.
Jared
Mar 8 2021 at 2:11pm
I agree with Daniel. On this pollingreport page, you’ll find a couple questions about Dr. Fauci:
https://www.pollingreport.com/trump_ad.htm
I could not dig up the crosstabs, but given the very high difference on approval of approach to the pandemic (+71 points) and trust (+52 points), you’d be hard pressed to find an actual net dislike among any of the rather broad subgroups Tyler defines. I would buy that the net positive might be smaller for parents of children, but even there, once you controlled for political party, I’m not sure that would remain…
[Note also: all of this is from nearly a year ago. The most recent polling I could find on Fauci favorability is from near the election (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/02/2020-election-polls-voters-approve-more-of-fauci-than-trump-on-coronavirus.html). 72% approve/28% disapprove. Again, it is possible there that there are differences in the net positive as Tyler outlined, but an actual reversal? I would be surprised…]
Alan Goldhammer
Mar 8 2021 at 2:24pm
#5 (HCT for vaccines) is just plain wrong as anyone familiar with vaccine development is aware. At best it may work at the margins but will do little for the elderly patients who are not going to be eligible for HCTs. The elderly have diminished immune systems and may require higher vaccine doses than those who participate in the HCT (best example here is the new shingles vaccine produced by GSK that requires two shots with a large amount of antigen + adjuvant to stimulate the immune system).
HCTs do not address safety issues of vaccines at all as the patient population size is too small. this is the primary reason vaccine trials are so large to begin with. Once vaccine platforms are initially approved, subsequent changes to the vaccine can be done with only smaller imunogenicity trials. This is what happens with the seasonal flu vaccine and according to the recent FDA Guidance document on COVID-19 vaccines this is their expectation as well.
Mark Z
Mar 8 2021 at 3:42pm
I would be wary of Simpson’s ‘paradox’ here. ‘Older people tend to be Republicans’ and ‘Republicans tend to be more opposed to lockdowns’ doesn’t mean that ceteris paribus, older people tend to be more opposed to lockdowns (e.g., white males are the most Republican Demographic, Republicans are more religious tan Democrats, and yet white males happen to be one of the least religious demographics).
Mark Brophy
Mar 9 2021 at 5:04am
My landlord is a lean 70 year old who spent 40 years filing lawsuits against governments but he got vaccinated even though his good health made him a poor candidate. People support the government even though they know it works poorly.
suddyan
Mar 9 2021 at 8:22am
[… he got vaccinated… People support the government…]
Those two may have absolutely nothing to do with each other for some people. Like me.
Thomas L Knapp
Mar 9 2021 at 7:14am
“Objective self-interest” doesn’t exist. Self-interest is always subjective.
Daniel Kling
Mar 9 2021 at 8:50pm
Utility and value are subjective? What are you, some kind of weird economist?
Ryan McPherson
Mar 9 2021 at 1:49pm
I agree with this in theory, but I think there is one important fact to consider.
That is: People, somewhat miraculously, are still incredibly ignorant about covid. I have friends who are barely willing to discuss covid with me; when I recite all of the statistics about percentages of risk, etc… they cannot disagree. These are facts. But they have some explanation or another for those facts. It’s because of social distancing or because of masks, or whatever else they can think of, and they are willing to discuss these things no further. Their positions are driven by fear. They stay home, they wear masks, they refuse to visit friends and even family, and they very strongly support ongoing government restrictions. I had one friend who said “I’ll come visit as soon as I’ve had the vaccine.”
Also, I have encountered a surprising number of people who in any other context would argue in favor of liberty – conservatives or libertarians – who have tossed all of that out the window because covid is so dangerous.
In short, they are acting out of self interest, but they are badly misinformed about what their self interest actually is.
But isn’t that true of many things as well? The extremely wealthy still support liberal policies that will eventually hurt them. But that harm is not immediately apparent, and it may not even be ever felt. They are acting in their self interest, foolishly prioritizing the self-righteous affirmation that they enjoy by being on the right side, and all of their friends exist in a bubble that tells itself that their causes are all good, while they are largely shielded from the harms of their policy choices. Same with relatively poor people who advocate for a minimum wage only to lose their jobs, or for wealth-redistribution only to see their own cost of living increase. And take masks as perhaps the best example of all. The whole “I wear my mask for you, you wear your mask for me” is abject nonsense. Nobody wears a mask for someone else – that person wearing a mask in his car or on the street … virtually everyone who wears a mask does so because it helps him to feel protected. Is this irrational? Perhaps not. Is it ignorant? Absolutely. Is it acting out of self-interest? Well… yes. Even though it has the opposite effect.
Self interest does not mean intelligent, well-informed self-interest, it only means that people are doing what they think is right for them.
Mark
Mar 9 2021 at 6:01pm
Self-interested voter hypothesis doesn’t apply to most people because the government doesn’t affect most people’s lives very much. Sure, one party may be a little better for you on the margin financially, but it’s not a big difference in the grand scheme of things. Thus, voting your feelings is low-cost for most voters.
But some voters could be significantly affected by government policy. Say, someone who has a criminal record because of weed, or someone who married an illegal immigrant who is deported and can’t come back for 10 years. I would expect these voters to vote based on self-interest. I think it would actually be better if voting were more costly (in a non-discriminatory way) so that only the people who are most impacted by government policy end up voting. That should naturally increase voting based on self-interest rather than mood affiliation.
Mark Z
Mar 12 2021 at 2:20pm
Just allow people to buy and sell votes. The people most affected will be willing to pay the most for them.
Of course, I’m not sure under any scenario people with the strongest vested interest in voting will vote more. Even for people who are relatively affected by public policy, the expected value of a vote to them is negligible. It’s below the threshold where self-interest matters at all. The expected value of the impact of one person’s vote on his own life is $0.001 and for another it’s $0.01, sure, it’s an order of magnitude difference, but it’s nothing either way. Both will disregard self-interest and vote according to mood affiliation.
Steven Hankin
Mar 13 2021 at 6:16am
HI BRYAN, I HAVE TAKE SEVERAL OF YOUR CLASSES (PUBLIC CHOICE AND LABOR ECONOMICS) SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I FOUND BOTH OF YOUR CLASSES TO BE VERY INTERESTING . I AM NOW 71 YEARS OLD., PERHAPS WITH THAT YOU MIGHT REMEMBER ME.
IN TODAY’S VERY POLITICIZED WORLD, I BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE TAKE POSITIONS BASED NEITHER ON THEIR OWN SELF INTEREST OR ON THEIR IDEALS. RATHER , I THINK THAT THEY TAKE POSITIONS THAT SUPPORT THEIR TRIBE. PEOPLE THESE DAYS IDENTIFY WITH THE TWO POLITICAL PARTIES IN A TRIBAL MANNER. THESE POLITICAL PARTY TRIBAL IDENTIFICATIONS HAVE BECOME VERY STRONG.
LET’S PUT ASIDE, THE MATTER OF WHY PEOPLE HAD ORIGINALLY ,YEARS AGO, DECIDED TO IDENTIFY AS A DEMOCRAT OR AS A REPUBLICAN, TODAY, PEOPLE CAN BE RELIED UPON TO EMBRACE THE POSITIONS OF THEIR POLITICAL PARTY, AND TO DO SO SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THAT POLITICAL TRIBAL IDENTITY, .
FOR ME, GROWING UP JEWISH, IT WAS CLEAR THAT THE DEMOCRATS WERE OUR TRIBAL AFFILIATION. YET, I THINK IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT REPUBLICANS DURING THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY WERE MUCH MORE SUPPORTIVE OF ISRAEL THAN THE DEMOCRATS. SO, IT WOULD SEEM THAT A JEW’S SELF INTEREST WOULD HAVE BEEN TO EMBRACE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. YET, OUTSIDE OF THE VERY ORTHODOX, THE VAST MAJORITY OF JEWS CONTINUE TO IDENTIFY AS DEMOCRATS. CURIOUSLY, MOST JEWS (ESPECIALLY REFORM AND CONSERVATIVE JEWS) HAVE CHOSEN TO PLACE THEIR POLITICAL IDENTIFY OVER THEIR JEWISH IDENTITY.
MY BOTTOM LINE IS THAT I BELIEVE THAT MOST PEOPLE REFLEXIVELY SUPPORT THEIR TRIBE. AND, IN THE US TODAY, WE HAVE TWO OVERARCHING TRIBES: THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. THAT POLITICAL TRIBAL IDENTIFICATION HAS NOW BECOME THE BASIS FOR THE POLITICAL POSITIONS TAKEN BY MOST PEOPLE , INSTEAD OF THEIR SELF INTEREST OR THEIR IDEALS.
PROOF OF THIS IS DEMONSTRATED BY THE FACT THAT IN ANY ARGUMENT OR DEBATE BETWEEN A DEMOCRAT AND A REPUBLICAN, RARELY, IF EVER, DOES ONE SIDE CHANGE THE MIND OF THE OTHER SIDE, BECAUSE TRIBAL TYPE IDENTIFICATIONS TEND TO BE FIXED IN STONE.
YOU MAY RECALL, THAT I AM A LIBERTARIAN AND AS SUCH I HAVE ONLY DISDAIN FOR OUR POLITICAL PROCESS, IE, MORE SPECIFICALLY, I HAVE DISDAIN FOR BOTH THE DEMOCRATIC AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTIES. YET, I DO FEAR THE POLICIES OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY FAR MORE THAN THOSE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
REGARDS,
STEVEN J HANKIN
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