Julius Probst directed me to this interesting map:
When looking at a graph, I often find it useful to consider more than one factor. In this case, I see evidence of three independent factors at work:
1. Densely populated places are more expensive.
2. Fast growing places are more expensive.
3. Heavily regulated places are more expensive.
Let’s consider these one at a time. California and the Northeast corridor (DC to Boston) are both well above average in terms of median home prices. But there are also some anomalies, such as the above average prices in much of the mountain west. Even thinly populated states such as Nevada and Montana are relatively expensive, at least compared to midwestern states such as Illinois, Michigan and Ohio, which are far more densely populated.
In recent years, the mountain west has experienced significant population growth, while the industrial Midwest has had a stagnant population. This probably explains why the more sparsely populated west is more expensive than the Midwest, and also some other interesting pairs of states, such as Texas/Oklahoma, Tennessee/Kentucky, and Georgia/Alabama, where in each case the faster growing state is more expensive.
Once again, however, there are some anomalies. Some of America’s fastest population growth is now occurring in the southeast (Florida to the Carolinas), Texas and Tennessee. And yet these states are still considerably cheaper than the mountain west, despite a denser population. What explains that difference?
I suspect that regulatory barriers to building are tighter in many parts of the mountain west. This might partly reflect different attitudes toward zoning, but also the fact that much of the land in the west is owned by the federal government. Even cities such as Las Vegas and Phoenix, which seem to have limitless land on their borders, are somewhat hemmed in by federally owned land or Indian reservations.
It’s widely known that regulation in California is driving up housing costs, and that this is driving people to seek places with a lower cost of living. Because the mountain west is growing at a fairly good clip, one might be tempted to assume that these states do not face the same problems as California. But the fact that places like Colorado, Utah, Montana and Washington are far more expensive than Texas or the Carolinas leads me to believe that housing policies in western states are reducing population growth. Many younger Americans are probably choosing Charlotte, Nashville or Jacksonville over places like Denver, Salt Lake City or Seattle not because they prefer those locations, rather because housing costs make their desired location prohibitively expensive. In a truly free market where the federal government sold off its land, I suspect the mountain west would be growing even faster than Texas and the southeast.
PS. The mountain west may also have a newer housing stock than the Midwest, which may explain part of the discrepancy.
READER COMMENTS
Dylan
Jul 27 2024 at 7:04pm
Thanks for posting this, Scott. We’ve been looking at houses recently, and have been at least theoretically open to places across the country. Our aging parents and other family are primarily in Washington and California, so of course those were at the top of the list. I already knew that California was expensive, but I had no idea how expensive Washington had become, and not just the areas around Seattle, but even Spokane is full of million dollar homes.
In contrast, I’ve been surprised to find that the bedroom communities around NYC, our current home, are generally more affordable. Even some neighborhoods in NYC itself are within our budget, and have the added fiscal benefit of not needing to own a car.
The map doesn’t explain the difference, but it at least helps me realize I’m not just imagining it.
Craig
Jul 27 2024 at 8:57pm
“not needing to own a car.”
My now late grandparents lived in Yorkville/UES and did the snowbird thing to Tampa. When they got too old to drive they stayed in NYC where they could walk across the street to all the stores they needed.
“the added fiscal benefit”
Well, the ultimate goal when banking out of the north to come south is to have the added fiscal benefit of not having a housing payment, at all.
Dylan
Jul 28 2024 at 8:59am
I think the key phrase is “banking out.” If you owned property in the NE and were able to sell it and buy something in the south for less money and own it outright, good for you. Doesn’t work as well when you’re a first time buyer.
Plus, my wife hates the heat. She dreams of Alaska much more than Florida.
Craig
Jul 28 2024 at 11:33am
Yes, if one were to move to Buffalo I’d say to make sure to visit in the middle of January likewise if you are going to move to FL I’d suggest spending two weeks in FL right about now actually to make sure you can tolerate the heat. The climate does vary too as between Miami and Lake City of course. In January you can get a day where Miami is at 80 and Lake City is at 32. The South also varies too, where I am in TN as well and the weather is very similar to North Jersey except the winters are milder/shorter though you can get the erratic jet stream drop and yeah, it also gets COLDER in TN at the extreme. Had -7 in TN which I never felt in North Jersey.
steve
Jul 27 2024 at 8:32pm
Glad you added last part. My group bought an existing house in coal country so people would have a place to stay on call. Lots of unoccupied homes in the area. We got a 3 bedroom place with handcut wood floors for $50k. Minimal fixing up. It would have cost us over $250k to build equivalent new.
Steve
Kevin Erdmann
Jul 27 2024 at 10:03pm
None of the supposedly fast growing states are growing by more than 2% annually. This would not have been considered high growth before 2008.
its not so much that regulations have gotten a lot worse. It’s that the growing places used to work around their overly regulated cores by building a lot of single family homes in the exurbs. The mortgage crackdown shut a lot of that down, which made the pre-existing infill land use regulations binding.
so growth does create price pressure, but it creates price pressure at much lower growth levels than it used to.
People talk about the covid/work-from-home demand spike, but the quantity of units produced during this supposed demand spike would have been considered deeply recessionary in the 20th century.
There are no high growth places (except Austin) anymore. Just moderate growth places, but that’s too much for American cities with today’s land use/mortgage regulation.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1qMEr
Thomas L Hutcheson
Jul 28 2024 at 8:57am
Land use and building codes are one of the most important areas to apply cost benefit analysis to.
Rahul Iyer
Jul 28 2024 at 9:32am
For Arizona and Phoenix the issue is where is their suitable land. We are not hemmed in by restricted land. It is just if you wanted services that a city offers. There are tons of new developments just beyond the city line. The question is do you want them. Also, remember the aquifer restrictions in Phoenix. Any new housing development requires the builder show that an aquifer can support it.
I am an Arizonan since 2010. I am originally from Illinois. I left Illinois because of their runaway taxes.
As far as Tennessee, where I also once lived, it is pretty affordable. I lived in a small town close to where TN, GA, and AL met. I left because my job ended, because the factory closed in the small town.
So, it is based upon what you seek. Houses cost more where there are jobs and opportunities. Thank goodness I bought mine in Arizona and paid it off before costs skyrocketed.
Craig
Jul 28 2024 at 11:29am
” I lived in a small town close to where TN, GA, and AL met.”
Small town named Chattanooga? 😉 I took my kids to that tristate point. Up in Hamilton County our crowd was second to none. I’m all the way up a stone toss from the KY line, but the living costs are stunningly low, water, electricity, insurance, taxes, housing. Its ALL very affordable.
Rahul Iyer
Jul 28 2024 at 8:57pm
Craig
I was 50 miles West of Chattanooga on the I-24…back towards Nashville. I was in a town called Winchester TN (Franklin County). I was a stone’s throw from Arnold AEDC (Arnold AFB) in Tullahoma. Huntsville was 45 miles South of me. Chattanooga was 45-50 miles Southeast of me. Nashville was 70 miles NW of me.
I worked as a Quality Engineer at that time in an automotive parts manufacturer.
Lizard Man
Jul 28 2024 at 2:00pm
I’d rather see median wages by state adjusted for local purchasing power.
Bobster
Jul 28 2024 at 4:47pm
Mountain West is beautiful but can also have harsh winters.
Matt
Jul 28 2024 at 8:58pm
Kind of ironic politically. Higher home prices tend to be where states vote blue and lower where states vote red. Of course it’s not true with a handful of states.
Anna
Jul 30 2024 at 12:13pm
Interesting observation… however, be careful not to jump to a conclusion on a causal relationship. Do the political leanings and policies lead to the prices, or do the lifestyle and values that lead people to live where they live create both the pricing and the political environment? Just food for thought.
Rahul Iyer
Jul 28 2024 at 9:02pm
Note that places like Minot North Dakota are also very affordable. My nephew is currently studying at Minot State University. Out of state tuition there is cheaper then Arizona in-state at ASU.
David S
Jul 29 2024 at 9:38am
I’ll argue that any type of regional comparison needs to be at the county scale, because even small states like Rhode Island can have considerable variations in costs and amenities that skew the median assessment at the statewide level. Modern American prosperity can be seen as a condition of what I like to call the “Glaeser Rule” which simply states that cities always win.
Earl Shelton
Jul 29 2024 at 4:23pm
I think Western states like ID. MT and NV are expensive because 1) people are moving there from even more expensive CA, and, 2) they have a sort of unsettled alure that drew people west originally — compared to long-settled Illinois and such.
it’s just hard to get excited about moving to Ohio or Indiana unless you have family or an exciting college or job waiting.
Ted Durant
Jul 29 2024 at 6:25pm
If you choose to perform some data analysis to test your hypotheses, you might think carefully about how you define population density. While it is true, for example, that the mountain west states have low population density, they also have vast areas where the population is zero. As a home price modeler for 30 years, I found it helpful to create a measure of population density that is weighted to where people actually live.
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