Nick and I discuss this with Joseph Minarik (former OMB economist under President Clinton) and Peter Wallison. The full half-hour video is here. Below is a 3-minute preview.
Nick and I discuss this with Joseph Minarik (former OMB economist under President Clinton) and Peter Wallison. The full half-hour video is here. Below is a 3-minute preview.
Jan 27 2012
I've been busy all week teaching an intense course. Thus the hiatus in my blogging. I took the Charles Murray quiz that Arnold suggested and I scored, depending on the definition of a close friend, either 12 or 13 points out of 20. I agree with the tenor of Arnold's criticisms. I have never worked on a factory floo...
Jan 27 2012
We've been discussing Charles Murray's Coming Apart, and now there is a quiz you can take to find out if you are living in an elitist bubble. My score was reported as "between 5 and 8," which is weird, since the questions had yes or no answers. I guess whatever exact number I got, they classified it as between 5 and ...
Jan 27 2012
Nick and I discuss this with Joseph Minarik (former OMB economist under President Clinton) and Peter Wallison. The full half-hour video is here. Below is a 3-minute preview.
READER COMMENTS
David Friedman
Jan 27 2012 at 8:57pm
With regard to the “party in power” argument–that no party would permit default because it would be blamed–there may not be a party in power. Consider a situation, such as we have recently faced, where one party holds the White House and the other one or both houses of Congress. If default occurs, each party will blame the other.
Joe Cushing
Jan 28 2012 at 12:50am
The party that holds the White House is the one that gets blamed. People think of the president as being more powerful than reality. This is in part because presidents pretend to be more powerful than reality.
Brandon
Jan 28 2012 at 2:09am
On a related note, Jeffrey Rogers Hummel has a piece up on some of the possible consequences of a US government default.
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Shayne Cook
Jan 28 2012 at 8:36am
I also, some time ago, projected a high probability of a default event, or an extraordinary level of inflation (currency devaluation) based on Government deficits and debt – just like these folks. I actually would have predicted the event to have occurred already, given the levels of deficit. Inasmuch as it hasn’t happened,I was wrong. Having been wrong, I had to find out why, and basic economics (and the law) explained why.
Currency has three features/characteristics – medium of exchange, unit of account, and store of value. As Benjamin Franklin noted over 200 years ago, a fiat currency automatically adjusts (inflates) itself when it is over-printed. And that’s true – but only when it is active as a medium of exchange! If a fiat currency is over-printed, but held in account only, it can’t and won’t automatically inflate.
Note that nearly half of Treasury (taxpayer) debt exists exclusively as a line item on the central bank’s (Federal Reserve) balance sheet. Furthermore, the Fed has the right and the legal obligation to buy any Treasury debt held by anyone else! China, Japan, your grandmother or anyone else who currently holds Treasury debt can redeem those bonds – for Federal Reserve Coupons (currency) – at any time for face value from the Fed! And the Fed controls interest rates, the “bond market” doesn’t!
So what about the current Federal Government debt-funded spending excesses? That puts the “excessively printed” fiat currency in play as medium of exchange – why doesn’t that create inflation?
Two reasons …
First, because the inflation has already occurred – 2002 through 2007. The housing bubble was the inflation. What current excess Fed-funded Government spending is doing right now is preventing (or at least controlling the rate of) deflation in the U.S. economy.
Second, because U.S. currency is the de-facto global currency. And it’s not just the global reserve, it’s very much the preferred global medium of exchange. As such, there is high demand for it outside the U.S. economy, both as medium of exchange AND store of value. And evidently, that demand hasn’t waned very much, at least enough to indicate a supply excess.
The upshot of all this is that the U.S. can’t and won’t ever default on it’s debt. Not ever! It has a central bank (and sovereign right) to redeem all its debt, on demand from any creditor, at any time, at face value, in U.S. currency. Inasmuch as the Fed IS and remains the single largest creditor (by far), the threat of a “bondholder-driven” increase in interest rates is unlikely.
One further comment …
Much of these discussions – and an enormous amount of crap political rhetoric – is based on the misconception that Bernanke and the Fed are somehow guilty of complicity in Federal Government spending excesses, via its supposed “independence”. READ THE LAW! The Federal Reserve, as the chartered Central Bank of the United States, is REQUIRED BY LAW to fund every single penny of Congressional-mandated Treasury debt. It’s not Bernanke’s choice. The Federal Reserve Bank is independent of the vagaries of political intrigue, but it is not independent of the law.
Greg
Jan 28 2012 at 11:42am
can someone tell Arnold Kling to make these discussion sessions available as .mp3 so i can listen to them at the gym?
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