A while back, I posted about a few different things I think are true, with a request for people to offer up what might change my mind. Unfortunately, the responses I got were generally what I specifically said I was not looking for. I was hoping to get some recommended reading, where people identified books, essays, etc. that made what they consider the best, most comprehensive case for a contrary view, rather than simply identifying a point they disagree with, followed by a three sentence explanation about why.
However, there is a consolation prize – one of the quintessential bleeding-heart libertarian philosophers, Matt Zwolinski, recently and coincidentally posted some thoughts critiquing one of the ideas I listed – the moral parity thesis. This is the idea that, as Zwolinski phrases it, “if something is wrong for individuals to do, then it’s wrong for governments to do as well.” Or, as Dan Moller phrased it in his book Governing Least, “it should at the very least give us pause if we are advocating social institutions that enshrine a moral logic we reject in face-to-face encounters.”
Zwolinski raises two concerns regarding the moral parity thesis. One, the moral parity thesis has radical implications, in that “it implies that almost everything that governments do – from drug criminalization to social welfare to taxation itself – is morally illegitimate.” It also has troubling implications regarding the case of children – or at least it seems to have little useful to suggest.
The second objection is the idea that we can’t “extrapolate social morality from the morality of individual behavior.” That is, social morality might be an emergent phenomenon, “which is grounded but not manifested in the behavior that gives rise to it.” If this is the case, rules about how we should behave in individual, face-to-face encounters might very well be a poor guide to understanding rules that govern large scale social interactions. If social morality “is a fundamentally evolutionary phenomenon that emerges from our collective attempt to solve the problems inherent in social co-existence”, we can’t expect to answer those questions entirely by reference to individual encounters any more than you could derive properties about the ocean from the study of individual H2O molecules.
These are interesting thoughts, but I don’t find them successful in undercutting the moral parity thesis. I’ll have one post upcoming dedicated to each objection, and explain why Zwolinski’s concerns haven’t persuaded me. But to give a preview – I disagree with Zwolinski’s claim that the moral parity thesis implies the illegitimacy of things like social welfare programs. One can accept moral parity, and still conclude that taxation and welfare programs are permissible. My next post will be providing an argument in favor of the welfare state that assumes the legitimacy of moral parity.
After that, I’ll follow up with another post talking about the emergence objection, and why I don’t think it undercuts moral parity either.
READER COMMENTS
nobody. really
Aug 20 2024 at 3:49pm
“Previews of coming attractions....” I’ll start the popcorn!
Matt Zwolinski
Aug 20 2024 at 8:28pm
Looking forward to your future posts, Kevin!
Monte
Aug 21 2024 at 2:31pm
Looking forward to your next series of posts.
I think the debate can be compassed within the metaphor of an eternal conflict between moral absolutism (MPT) and moral relativism. If you’re looking for a book that calls into question a strict commitment to either philosophy while providing a middle ground for reconciliation, I recommend David B. Wong’s “Natural Morality: A Defense of Moral Pluralism.” I’ve not read it myself, but according to those who have, it represents a moral synthesis of these two schools of thought.
Daniel B.
Aug 21 2024 at 10:43pm
I’m looking forward to these posts :). Although, I have something to say which I think you will find interesting. I’m not sure if this is an irrelevant aside or not, but something that makes me dislike “moral parity” arguments is that they are inherently not very likely to persuade the people they have to persuade, if the libertarian policies the proponents of such arguments want are to actually happen in the real world.
What do I mean? Let me give an example. “Taxation is theft” is a moral parity argument that some people seem to like making. I certainly can’t come up to someone and say, “It’s time for you to pay up. My leader requires some money, and if you don’t pay, well… we’ll arrange for some armed people in blue – let’s call them police – to pay you a visit, and arrest you if you continue being stubborn about this.” If I personally did such a thing I’d be a thief. But according to this argument, that is what supporters of at least some level of government are doing. After all, they vote for people in blue to take money from others to provide the taxes to fund government, on pain of fines, arrest and incarceration. The people who love this argument and seem to think it’s a clincher say things like “I am against robbery, and all taxation is robbery” when asked to explain why they disagree with certain government interventions. Those government interventions, if this argument is right, are not really that different from someone mugging or robbing you. “Isn’t it just common sense morality that taxation is wrong?” they might say.
Let’s assume that this argument is right and the other person who supports at least some taxation really is a thief, mugger, robber, etc. Well, since they are muggers, they want to steal from you. That is why they support taxation – they want money to go to certain things. And that leads to my question. If someone was mugging you, do we really think it’s likely that saying “Mugging is wrong!” is going to stop the mugging from happening?
The people who want to tax you, the argument goes, want to steal from you. And that’s precisely why that argument won’t persuade many people! The thief won’t care that by your standards he is a thief. He won’t believe in your ethical code; if such a code held sway over him, then he probably wouldn’t have been a thief in the first place. And of course, he might actually agree with you that theft is wrong, and have a justification ready for why his theft is different. “Mugging is theft and theft is wrong!” when dealing with someone personally mugging them is not going to stop the mugging from happening. And I’m sure even the an-caps and others who like that argument recognize this, when dealing with muggers in their personal lives. Yet the very same people, when confronting those they regard as political thieves, seem to think that the same statement will stop those thieves. But isn’t the logic behind the two situations – getting mugged in the alley at night, and getting “mugged” by majorities – the same?
“Swiper no swiping!” is not going to make the very many Swipers – such as the millions of non-anarchists – of your money stop swiping. I genuinely do not understand why so many libertarians – even academic ones like Dan Moller and Michael Huemer – seem to think that saying that is a smart thing to say to those they regard as political muggers. E.g., “Swiper, no unreasonable demanding!” (I haven’t read Dan Moller’s book, although my understanding is that that’s the short version of a point he makes in it that’s fundamental to his argument.) Or “Swiper, no extorting!” (Michael Huemer compares taxation to extortion in The Problem of Political Authority, which I read quite a while ago; e.g., page 4, or page 252). Who else but the choir would be receptive to such preaching? The much better persuasive strategy is to make consequentialist arguments, as David Friedman advocates in The Machinery of Freedom. When I used to not be a libertarian (I’m not an an-cap though), I was always more impressed with consequentialist arguments (usually involving economics) for libertarianism more than moral parity ones; the people saying “taxation is theft” always seemed to me like they were making a mountain out of a molehill. (Taxation was the lesser evil; in fact I still consider it the lesser evil. What’s the point of getting rid of one evil if that only leads to other ones of even greater importance? Coercion is not the only bad thing in the world, and other things can outweigh it in importance.)
Roger McKinney
Aug 22 2024 at 10:49am
You may not have received the responses you wanted because there aren’t any books or articles that oppose your points. But that’s not because everyone agrees with you. Free Market people agree, buy socialists don’t know about your points or ignore them.
I’ve read a lot of socialist books and articles and they go for the emotional jugular, not facts and reason.
When Richard Ely came back to the US from Germany and set up the American Economic Association to promote socialism, he didn’t debate laissez-faire economists. He just ignored their points and ridiculed them. That’s standard socialist operating procedure. It was Marx’s method, too. He could defend his nonsense from attacks by economists, so he ridiculed their field.
Socialists have followed his example since and have won because socialism is driven by envy, not by reason.
Roger McKinney
Aug 22 2024 at 10:51am
That should say Marx couldn’t defend his nonsense.
Monte
Aug 22 2024 at 11:33am
There are several, actually. Among the most prominent (according to ChatGPT):
Roger McKinney
Aug 23 2024 at 9:31am
Find something on the economic issues.
Monte
Aug 23 2024 at 10:22am
Incorrectly assumed you were addressing Kevin’s first challenge to readers on moral realism. Are any of the following more in line with what you’re referring to?:
The Morality of the State (A. John Simmons)
Anarchy, State, and Utopia (Robert Nozick)
A Theory of Justice (John Rawls)
The State and the Moral Order (C. L. Ten)
Monte
Aug 23 2024 at 10:46am
Also by A. John Simmons, “Justification and Legitimacy: Essays on Rights and Obligations.”
Monte
Aug 23 2024 at 11:40am
Actually, The Morality of the State is a work by Hegel and probably the most pertinent for purposes of this discussion. A brief synopsis:
Roger McKinney
Aug 22 2024 at 10:55am
Here’s a good example of a socialist diatribe against markets by a theologian. Most Marxists are theologians, philosophers and sociologists. They ignore or are ignorant of economic arguments against socialism. But they influence more people than do economists because they appeal to emotions.
https://rdmckinney.blogspot.com/2024/01/there-is-something-wrong-with-economic.html?m=1
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